Home Forum Gallery CruiserFAQ Tech Links Merchandise
IH8MUD Forum
Go Back   IH8MUD Forum > Toyota Tech Forums > 40- & 55-Series Tech
Join IH8MUD on Google+   Follow IH8MUD on Twitter   Visit IH8MUD on Facebook      

40- & 55-Series Tech Questions and discussion for the 25 - 40 - 45 - 55/56 - and related-series Cruisers.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-10, 09:24 AM   #1
michaelharrisco
250+ Club


 
michaelharrisco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 294
Garage
Rear Drum Brakes Leaking at Wheels

I've now got a pretty bad brake fluid leak coming out of my driver side rear brake (org drums). The guy I bought it from already had new brake wheel cylinders in the box sitting in the back. I'm making the assumption they are the right part for the FJ since he said he had ordered them appropriately.

My questions is: do I need any other parts while in there or is the wheel cylinder the primary part that leaks? Once I get in there while replacing are there any other parts that typically need to be changed at the same time to stop the leak?

The leak is getting bad now so I need to get on this fix ASAP and want to prepare for the job by getting some feedback from the folks here beforehand.

I was surprised not to see too many post by searching "rear drum brake leak" on here. If there is already a good thread on this, please send me there.

__________________
07/78 FJ40
2000 4Runner
Raleigh, NC

Last edited by michaelharrisco; 10-26-10 at 09:25 AM. Reason: typo
michaelharrisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-10, 09:33 AM   #2
Leaping Deer
Lifer


 
Leaping Deer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: In the Bucket
Posts: 3,922
Since the brake shoes have been covered with brake fluid I would replace them. Might as well get a hardware kit which includes the springs, pins, ect. You might be able to have the drums resurfaced. Also don't forget the brake fluid.

Also are you sure that its the wheel cylinder and not an axle seal leaking. You should be able to tell by the smell of the fluid leaking out. Also if you have lost that much fluid you would probably notice it in the brake pedal.

__________________
1977 FJ40 Mustard - Going to be stockish
1977 BJ40 Wheeling Rig - TBI 350, SM465, 38x12.50x15 TSLs, Saginaw Steering, Longfields, SOA on F60 Axles and springs 103" wheelbase, Put together on the cheap with duct tape and bailing wire.
Leaping Deer is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsor 10-26-10, 09:49 AM
Sponsored Link
advertisement
Old 10-26-10, 09:49 AM   #3
michaelharrisco
250+ Club


 
michaelharrisco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 294
Garage
I'm no expert, but I know my brake fluid is getting low really quick and I'm having to put more brake fluid in there daily and a pool of brake fluid is coming from the rear wheel on the inside part leaking down the tire and then onto the ground.

The brake shoe is a good point and I may see if I can get new ones locally. Oh I have plenty of brake fluid since it leaks so quick. Also just finished fixing a leaking master and slave clutch cylinder so I was previously dumping brake fluid in there almost every day. I'll be so excited when my rig doesn't leak fluids anymore (I'm getting close compared to where I first started).

__________________
07/78 FJ40
2000 4Runner
Raleigh, NC
michaelharrisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-10, 01:40 PM   #4
kurtnkegger
Running Topless and Dirty


 
kurtnkegger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Denver, CO. Burbs
Posts: 1,143
Garage
Time to rebuild or replace your rear cylinders. The toughest part is separating the drum from the hub. If you are looking locally, source the parts before you tear in to it. The cyliders aren't as readily available as you might think. Even though the cylinders are front and back on the hub, they are listed as top and bottom from the parts stores, as one operates the top shoe, and the other bottom shoe.

__________________
1977 FJ40 "Stella" California emissions 2F engine, stock except with Pertronix, and Flamethrower. Saginaw steering, rear Aussie locker, rear disc brake conversion. 32X11.5X15 Mud Rovers.

You're never too old to learn something stupid.
kurtnkegger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-10, 10:36 AM   #5
Bodean
Lifer


 
Bodean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brandon, MS
Posts: 7,929
Easy job. Just did it. Buy new wheel cyl's and brake shoes. Install, bleed, adjust rear brakes and you are done. BTW, make sure the axle seals aren't leaking while you are there.

__________________
Jeff
CottonLand Cruisers Prez
Whitetrash of the Elwood Chapter
Lone Star Land Cruisers
I PRINT T-SHIRTS!
78 FJ40 4" Skyjackers, "NEW" 35" MTR's, Detroit, Metal Tech cage, 8274, Choctaw Sliders, Mini truck P/S, Longfield's, ARB, Orion, 2F!!
07 FJC (Wifes sled)
96 LX 450 Lifted, locked and some extras! (For sale)
06 Dodge 2500 Mega Cab CTD tow rig
TLCA #3164
USAF - POL 1987 - ?
"Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional"
Bodean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-10, 10:53 AM   #6
77cruiser77
250+ Club


 
77cruiser77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Enderby BC
Posts: 858
your brakes are over 30 years old so dont take any short cuts. Don't rebuild the cylinders - replace them. do it all too, this includes the spings and pins kit, wheel cylinders (two per side), pads and of course some fluid. If you really want it do it nice resurface that drum while you're at it.

This is an easy job that doesn't require special tools (if you have special brake tools they will help but i did it without them) and can be done in a short afternoon.

A FSM should also be thrown into the mix of stuff to get.

__________________
1990 HZJ77
1986 BJ70
1981 BJ41 in pieces and going up for sale
1977 FJ40 going up for sale
77cruiser77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-10, 08:27 AM   #7
michaelharrisco
250+ Club


 
michaelharrisco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 294
Garage
You were right...this is a pretty easy job.

Its a done deal and as of this morning I don't have any leaks. Only bummer was the parts store here gave me the wrong hardware kit so I was forced to use the old springs. They appeared to be in good shape and I had to get the FJ back on the road.

The passenger side was in surprisingly good shape (had obviously been previously replaced), but the driver side with that leak was a huge mess and the shoes were in terrible shape.

Got that leak taken care of...now onto the next one (water pump).

__________________
07/78 FJ40
2000 4Runner
Raleigh, NC
michaelharrisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-12, 01:42 PM   #8
BadKarma510
250+ Club


 
BadKarma510's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fort Smith Ar
Posts: 283
getting ready t do this also, any one have any pics of the process?
BadKarma510 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-12, 04:59 PM
Sponsored Link
advertisement
Old 02-09-12, 04:59 PM   #9
Roboosfj40s
Addict


 
Roboosfj40s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Ca./S.C. Now living in the Philippines Moving back to the U.S. in 2013!
Posts: 1,101
Garage
Look up a thread on here called "74 drum brake tech" Tell you all you need to know with pics and step by step. A very good write up. Good luck!

Rob

__________________
Nam Veteran 72-73 Door Gunner B Troop & H Troop Guns 7/17th Air Cavalry (1st Air Combat Regiment) 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile) Camp Holloway, Pleiku RSVN
Roboosfj40s is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:05 AM.


vBulletin® ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
©2000-2013 - Tie Rod Media, LLC - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED