[buckroseau]

I've got a new project coming down the pipeline right now and I'm working out the details of my game plan right now.

What is in there right now is a tired F with a worn out 3 on the tree. I want to build up a very nice driver that is easy for the wife to drive. I've did some research searching threads and looking at the tech links and have pretty much determined what I want. Most questions were answered by using those sources of info but, I still have a few technical questions that remain.

I will list my questions, although because I am unsure of what I am talking about in some of the questions, they may not make exact sense to some of you (or me?).



I want to install a 350 sbc, GM700R4 automatic transmission, mated to the 3 speed transfer case using Advanced Adapters hardware. I know this has been done many times, but still have some odd questions. I want to install this in a 1965 FJ45lv wagon.

Questions:

1. Headers/Manifolds - AA lists Fenderwell Headers and Inside Frame rail headers. Are the inside the frame rail headers, "Rams Horns Headers", if yes and if this is what I want, do I need additional exhaust hardware to install. Or the exhaust shop will take it from the Headers?

2. 3 speed transfer case, can that be converted to a mechanical lever vs the vacume? AA has some P/N's, 716024 ($20.49) and 715521 (47.81) on page 57. Would this be what I need? If not, do I still need those parts for something?

3. Yoke kits from AA for additional clearence, needed? If yes, I've also heard Downey off-road mentioned in a few threads, anything to that?

4. AA tranny/TC kit # 50-8901, note #1, "this kit uses a 2 wd output shaft, 6" stick out" Anything I need to know about this? Ordering a tranny or from AA?

5. In several threads people have mentioned to tell AA what your doing so you get the right Flexplate? What is this, starter gear right? What do I need to know? Do I get it from AA or autoparts store?

6. Tranny cooler, anything I need to know?

7. I read in a thread recently that someone wrote, "Saddle moutnted V8 outdated". Is this what AA sells, I was planning on getting there mounts, something better or this is it?


This is the order I have figured up out of the AA catalog for things I need to get from them:

Motor Mounts P/N # 713124 - $126.36
Exhaust P/N # 717011 - $232.22
TC X- Member P/N # 726022 - $157.07
Tranny / TC adaptor P/N # 50-8901 - $683.00
Yoke kit P/N # 716370 - $178.00
700R lock up by pass kit P/N # 24-700r - $179.00

8. Now, this maybe is right or wrong based on your answers to my questions listed above. Also, does not include the P/N #'s listed above for the transfer case, assuming I need them? If it looks good, let me know?

9. Also, are there any AA dealers or other outfits I should be looking to get this stuff through. I realize that sometimes the manufacture has a retail price not to undercut there dealers, anyone place out there you guys recomend? Or is ordering directly from AA as good as it gets?

We'll I hope I didn't create more questions here, Thanks, Matt

[LandCruiserPhil]

It would help if you noted what type of Cruiser are you converting?

[theo]

Also number your questions maybe?

Q1 (headers) - Ram's horns are technically not headers, they are centerdump cast iron exhaust manifolds. No extra hardware, just bolt them on. Some have bosses with threaded holes for brackets, some don't. Better flow than other manifolds, not like headers but don't warp and leak.

General - If you're converting an FJ40, you'll need to search and research ways to allow a long enough rear driveshaft and to allow clearance beside the tranny pan for the front driveshaft. Not trivial; I've seen more than one 700R 40 running around in permanent 2WD and with steep rear shaft angles.

General - The folks at AA are good at helping you choose the right parts for your specific job. I think you could get many of your answers through them. I did when I did my sbc/sm465 conversion. They designed and built their adaptors for very specific applications.

Qlast - There is an AA dealer in my town and I got better pricing through them than direct. That was before I learned to ask AA for a discount, though. Try both!

Hope this helps some.

[buckroseau]

Originally Posted by LandCruiserPhil

It would help if you noted what type of Cruiser are you converting?

Sorry, revisions made.

Thanks, Matt

[buckroseau]

[QUOTE=theo]Also number your questions maybe?


QUOTE]

Sorry, revisions made, Thanks.

[buckroseau]

Originally Posted by theo

Also number your questions maybe?


General - If you're converting an FJ40, you'll need to search and research ways to allow a long enough rear driveshaft and to allow clearance beside the tranny pan for the front driveshaft. Not trivial; I've seen more than one 700R 40 running around in permanent 2WD and with steep rear shaft angles.


Hope this helps some.

When I order the 700R4 should I be ordering one that is specific for a 4WD? I'm not sure what AA is implying with that note #1 in there catalog?

Thanks, Matt

[AlaskanWheeler]

The sadle mounts that you are refering to are what I think Downey used to sell; I'm not sure if they were the manufacturer or not. These would allow you to use the existing motor mounts to mount a SBC. CruiserOutfitters sells AA products also.

[buckroseau]

Originally Posted by AlaskanWheeler

The sadle mounts that you are refering to are what I think Downey used to sell; I'm not sure if they were the manufacturer or not. These would allow you to use the existing motor mounts to mount a SBC. CruiserOutfitters sells AA products also.

Which would you recomend? It's my understanding that you cut out the old motor mounts and have to weld AA's in? Do I have that right?

Thanks, Matt

[Rice]

Questions:

1. Headers/Manifolds - AA lists Fenderwell Headers and Inside Frame rail headers. Are the inside the frame rail headers, "Rams Horns Headers", if yes and if this is what I want, do I need additional exhaust hardware to install. Or the exhaust shop will take it from the Headers?

Inside the frame rail they use block hugger headers. Exhaust shop will take it from there back. See pic below.

5. In several threads people have mentioned to tell AA what your doing so you get the right Flexplate? What is this, starter gear right? What do I need to know? Do I get it from AA or autoparts store?

Starter gear ... yes ... that bolts to the crank flange. Flexplate comes in 153 and 168 tooth. You want to be sure you match up the plate you're using with the proper starter and bolt pattern. Up to 1986 bolt patterns are the same. 1987 -up switched to a small pattern.

6. Tranny cooler, anything I need to know?

Yes ... parallel plate coolers are more efficient than tube & fin designs.

7. I read in a thread recently that someone wrote, "Saddle moutnted V8 outdated". Is this what AA sells, I was planning on getting there mounts, something better or this is it?

Hmmm. I've seen several saddle mounts for H**PS but not for cruisers. I'm not sure "outdated" is quite right but there really is no need to use one. More stuff to get in the way .... axles and exhaust pipe.

[buckroseau]

Originally Posted by Rice

Questions:

1. Headers/Manifolds - AA lists Fenderwell Headers and Inside Frame rail headers. Are the inside the frame rail headers, "Rams Horns Headers", if yes and if this is what I want, do I need additional exhaust hardware to install. Or the exhaust shop will take it from the Headers?

Inside the frame rail they use block hugger headers. Exhaust shop will take it from there back. See pic below.

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Rice, so block huggers (inside the frame rail) headers and Ram's horns are different? Why did you choose the Block huggers over Ram's horns?

What type of motor mounts did you use in your install and where did you get them.

Looks like a very nice chevy install.

Thanks, Matt

[Poser]

Pic of AA engine mount...







Rams horn manifold....







This is a little project I have going on at my place...


There are more pics out HERE

[LandCruiserPhil]

Im not sure the difference of 40 and 45 frame but I run standard rear dump manifolds on my SBC- 40 with no issues.

A lot of poster have had problems with the front driveline/transmission clearance as previous stated. I run a 4L60 (read not 4L60E) and have no problems with front driveline/transmission clearance so you might want to research a 4L60 option.

You have a big list of junk from AA?? The only purchase I made from AA was 2WD 700R/4L60 to Toyota transfer case adapter.

HTH

[buckroseau]

Steve,

What TC case? Hardware on top of the auto, Where? What auto? How did you get the TC hardware next to the auto shifter? Why 2?

Looks like your gett'n it done, I like it, nice.

Thanks, Matt

[pbgbottle]

HEY! Poser if you used the mounting point under the AA adapter would the transfer case of fit in with the stock cross member still in the frame ,or would you still have to remove the stock crossmember to fit it in . i would like to put this setup in a 40 also

Jake

[buckroseau]

Originally Posted by LandCruiserPhil

Im not sure the difference of 40 and 45 frame but I run standard rear dump manifolds on my SBC- 40 with no issues.

A lot of poster have had problems with the front driveline/transmission clearance as previous stated. I run a 4L60 (read not 4L60E) and have no problems with front driveline/transmission clearance so you might want to research a 4L60 option.

You have a big list of junk from AA?? The only purchase I made from AA was 2WD 700R/4L60 to Toyota transfer case adapter.

HTH

I'm thinking I'm understanding the manifold thing now. I don't want headers, so the stock manifold or the Ram's horns are the way I'm going to go I think.

It is my understanding that the 700R and the 4L60 (not the 4L60E, that is different) are the same tranny, GM just changed the name?

I'm thinking my list from AA is quite long also? Not sure if I need all that chit. So you bought a 4L60 2WD tranny? You didn't have to get that special yoke for additional clearance they list at the bottom of the page? What about the lock out bypass for the tranny, what did you do about that?

Thanks, Matt

[LandCruiserPhil]

Originally Posted by buckroseau

I'm thinking I'm understanding the manifold thing now. I don't want headers, so the stock manifold or the Ram's horns are the way I'm going to go I think.

It is my understanding that the 700R and the 4L60 (not the 4L60E, that is different) are the same tranny, GM just changed the name?

The pan is different so that makes the case a little different. Same gears is all 3 as far as I know.

Originally Posted by buckroseau

I'm thinking my list from AA is quite long also? Not sure if I need all that chit. So you bought a 4L60 2WD tranny? You didn't have to get that special yoke for additional clearance they list at the bottom of the page? What about the lock out bypass for the tranny, what did you do about that?

Thanks, Matt

Not sure what you are talking about with the special yoke. Mine was done over 10 years ago so there has been a lot of brain lost since then.

I used a TPI 350 and trans out of the same 91 Trans Am. So I did not see the need to bypass lock-up.

[buckroseau]

AA's tranny kit page.

click here if you can't read it very good.

http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/063.html

same page

[Poser]

See if I can answer these.....


That fridge was moved from there, as it did not fit under this...







Twin stick info can be found here...

http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/060.html

Why two sticks? If you have to ask....

So that 4WD and range selection can be performed seperately...

I just modified the bracketry for the Lokar shifter, and the AA stuff to make it line up..

T-case is a four speed unit that has been gone through...

Oh, and NO the tube cross member had to be removed, as it was in the way...












LOKAR makes some very, very high quality products. I have recieved nothing but great products and great product support from them over the years...




Hope this helps some...


Good luck!


-Steve

[buckroseau]

Steve,

Another question, what motor are you using, looks like an LT1?

Thanks, Matt

[Poser]

RamJet from Fridley Chev...

Can also be seen here...

http://www.paceparts.com/index.asp?P...D&ProdID=17811