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Old 10-26-09, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone upgrade E-brake Mounting Bolts?

Ok, in yet another display of sheer brilliance, I've driven through my Ebrake and sheared the 4 backing-plate-to-xfer mounting bolts ... for the 2nd time.

As this is expensive (also pops the $80 brake cable) and time-consuming (not to mention frustrating & embarassing)... and knowing that I'm unlikely to get any smarter... I'd like to dummy-proof it to prevent future re-occurrence.

I would think the design should allow the ebrake to slip first (I'm glad it holds the vehicle, but geeez!). I'm surprised Toyota chose just four little 8mm bolts at such a high stress point.

Is there a stronger bolt/stud out there? Or has anyone drilled & tapped the speedo housing for the next larger size bolt?

Will this just move the point of failure to the xfer case or speedo housing?

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Old 10-26-09, 09:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have seen 12.9 hardness 8mm bolts shear off in that same application. There is not significant meat around the bolt holes to take them to 10mm.




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Does your E-Brake on light not function? You could wire a buzzer in it's place...

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Does your E-Brake on light not function? You could wire a buzzer in it's place...
I was thinking the same thing about the light, or install another light in a very obvious place.

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The buzzer's a good idea, except if I installed one, the first thing I'd likely do is disconnect it!

The brake warning light works... I've never *driven* it with the ebrake on, that's not the prob...

I got distracted while parking on a hill: ebrake on and in first gear (as backup to the ebrake--tho clearly that was unnecessary)... Normally one would shut the engine down first then let the clutch out, but this time I flubbed it and let the clutch out quickly with the engine still on and BANG!

BTW--it's got an SM420: so 2x the stock torque there. Still I'm surprised it could sheer them at idle. I wonder if a couple of the bolts hadn't already failed.

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I got distracted while parking on a hill.

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BTW--it's got an SM420: so 2x the stock torque there. Still I'm surprised it could sheer them at idle. I wonder if a couple of the bolts hadn't already failed.

Not likely. This has been accomplished with a stock three-speed transmission.



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Old 10-27-09, 10:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I upgraded mine to 8mm studs. No idea if this helps or not but from my nuts/bolts experience, studs are usually rated higher unless you are going out of your way to get super high strength bolts

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"LilJohn" any idea what length 8mm studs you used?

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