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10-16-09, 04:34 PM
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Help ID a soft top?
When I bought our latest 40 it came in pieces and in those was a set of bowsfor a soft top....dont know if its complete or what type of top it would fit.
Can you tell me if its all here and what type of top it might fit?
Can anyone post pics of besttop frame w/o top?
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1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-16-09, 04:48 PM
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I have a K-line top and the hardware looks very similar. I cant post any pictures for you tell next week. I have never had the top off because Ive been fixing all the mechanical stuff. I will try to post some pictures of the top monday or tuesday if someone hasnt beat me to it.
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10-16-09, 06:50 PM
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Hi All:
Yep, that is the bows, etc. for a Kayline "FastTrac" soft top.
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10-16-09, 09:32 PM
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the skinny rod bars, look like my old bestop bars
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10-16-09, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbgbottle
the skinny rod bars, look like my old bestop bars
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yes, the skinny rods are from an early model bestop - I have exactly those on my truck
I don't know what the bows are from, though, mine look different
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10-16-09, 09:57 PM
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(skinny)-Are you meaning the "B" pillar bars? I think there might be 2 sets or mixture of 2 sets..I also got another set of of bows (silver) not pictured...both mount to a pivot plate on each side.
Anyone have a pic of best top set-up w/o top....trying to seperate whats what
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-16-09, 10:16 PM
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only pic i could find of old bestop ,pic showing bars and using a bikini top ,i had put the skinny bars back on to hold the door closed . it is missing the rear galvinized bar.look close and you can see small red dots i put at each end of the bars . again only pic i could find.the one bow showing in the pic has a hole in it for the black bar to slip into it.
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
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10-16-09, 10:21 PM
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found two more
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
....  ... Cardomain Pics
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10-17-09, 12:09 AM
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Great thanks....So the two gal. hoops that mount onto the single pivot plate are best top. You all refer to old style....will they not work with present models? found a NOS best top for sale...how can I tell if its the correct model to fit this style frame??
And pics of the style top that fits this?
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-17-09, 10:46 AM
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this is a pic of the top i bought before bestop made a supertop ,or called there one with snaps the tigertop.
roof pictured here was bought in 1990
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
....  ... Cardomain Pics
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Last edited by pbgbottle; 10-17-09 at 08:13 PM.
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10-17-09, 10:48 AM
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here are the instructions for the fast trac tops gonna have to do some homework to figure out what you have ??
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
....  ... Cardomain Pics
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10-17-09, 10:50 AM
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here are the tigertop instructions one from my origianl scan instructions from 1990 ,SOR, and tigertop
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
....  ... Cardomain Pics
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10-17-09, 11:50 AM
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Thanks boys and girls, looks like i have both a Old style best top frame and a fast track frame
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-17-09, 12:10 PM
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The majority of the parts are k-line, I have one on my 79. I will get you some pics next week it is on the rig now. A company that manufacturs convertable tops for the automotive industry bought the patterns and equipment to make the tops again. This is the place that I got the info from 1-800-843-5337 on being able to get a new replacemnet top.
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10-17-09, 12:24 PM
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The k-line top uses those small tubes similar to pbgbottle's pics to create a door jam around the door and the plates bolt to were the hard top would go then the top hooks around the lip the plates create so you dont have to drill a bunch of hole in the body of your rig. Instead if the door being one peice it is split into an upper and lower that way you can just remove the upper half to make a half door.
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10-17-09, 01:36 PM
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I can mangle anything...
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the galvanized bows belong to the Bestop - I have the same as pictured, same doors, only in off-white - the hardware on the doors is ever so slightly different, I guess my top might be older
I wouldn't be surpised of a new Bestop fits as well - these are adjustable: there are several holes in the bracket that you can use to mount the bows - IIRC, there are two holes for the front bow and at least three for the rear
the sliding mounts are for a different model top
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'72FJ40 with a no-number 2F, MAF headers, 4spd, 33x10.5 BFG MT, 4" lift, roll cage, prehistoric ARB lockers f/r, MAF disk brakes f/r, hand throttle, Painless wiring, CB, custom horn brush, dual advance dizzy, Bilsteins, 4+ front bumper/rear shackles/U-bolt flip, Kevin-improved frame/shackles/shackle hanger, several polished turds  , with ChaseTruck  yes, MANUAL steering 
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10-17-09, 04:25 PM
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OK it looks like I have two complete sets of frames
1) older style best top (silver bows not shown...in garage)
1) fast track
anyone know for sure if the newer best top/tiger top will fit the older style frame?
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-17-09, 07:13 PM
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I can mangle anything...
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how about calling Bestop ?
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'72FJ40 with a no-number 2F, MAF headers, 4spd, 33x10.5 BFG MT, 4" lift, roll cage, prehistoric ARB lockers f/r, MAF disk brakes f/r, hand throttle, Painless wiring, CB, custom horn brush, dual advance dizzy, Bilsteins, 4+ front bumper/rear shackles/U-bolt flip, Kevin-improved frame/shackles/shackle hanger, several polished turds  , with ChaseTruck  yes, MANUAL steering 
Copper State Cruisers #40
http://www.desertrider.net/
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10-18-09, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DSRTRDR
how about calling Bestop ? 
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Why do you people insist on doing things the easy way??
Ya, I was waiting for Monday to do just that.
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-18-09, 01:16 PM
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i did post up all the different brand's of instructions (PDF's) you can also take a look at them they do show good diagrams of the pieces and who used what parts .
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FJ40,350 small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,saginaw,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,
Warn 8274 ,4x4 labs high steer,Marlin chromo birfs ,lunchbox lockers(front+rear) ,Metaltech Jackson cage
 ... ROTW:PBGBOTTLE
....  ... Cardomain Pics
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10-22-09, 09:43 AM
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Kay-line fast track
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10-22-09, 09:46 AM
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All the windows roll up and it turns into a safari top the doors can be half or full doors. The haedware in your original post looks like this I believe it wont show the pics anymore.
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10-22-09, 10:11 AM
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here is a couple more pics
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10-22-09, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centermass
The majority of the parts are k-line, I have one on my 79. I will get you some pics next week it is on the rig now. A company that manufacturs convertable tops for the automotive industry bought the patterns and equipment to make the tops again. This is the place that I got the info from 1-800-843-5337 on being able to get a new replacemnet top.
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Sorry to hi-jack this thread. I called that number and the guy said he just talked to the company about the K-line tops. They say they are going to start making replacement tops (w/o hardware in 4-6 months. They are setting up a metal shop so the full tops are 6-12 months off. I am very happy to hear this because my K-line is bad, dried up and cracked. but the hardware is fine. That will save me a buck.
P.S. He did say the company plans to do scout II first, maybe if we up the demand they'll get on the FJ40s just as quick!!
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10-24-09, 05:45 PM
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Thanks brother,
looking at the pics you posted, looks like I have almost all the fast track hardware.
Couple questions.. What does the windshield a connection look like? Tailgate? and are there spacers under the side tracks?
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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10-26-09, 10:14 AM
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I will try to post a pic for you. Mine has a peice of aluminium 90 degree stock that slides through the loop at the bottom of the window and the inserts into each side of the track that fit over the top of the tub. It doenst hook to the tail gate at all. Its great design because your not drilling holes all over your rig for snaps. If you look at the firts post with pics the second picture doesnt show it well but you can see a raised area on the track the aluminium stock slides into. Glad it was helpfull I will try to post some better pics of thr rear for you.
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11-03-09, 12:23 AM
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any update when they might be making fastrack tops again?...contact info?
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1985 HJ-60 ( Dk.Gray) Turboed 2H & H55f 5spd, OME 2.5 ... (born a FJ now a HJ)
1980 FJ-40 ( Red) w/135k orig (work in progress) 
1974 FJ-40 ( Green) Restored and sweet 
1987 BMW 325i e30 ( Dalphin gray) (my rocket)
1999 Volvo v70- R ( Copper) (wifes rocket)
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11-03-09, 04:18 AM
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I would be interested also. I have 2 full tops but both are missing small hardware
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