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Old 01-06-09, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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non-responding clutch

I have a new problem arising with my cruiser. I have to "pump up" the clutch pedal in order to be able to shift from one gear to the next. I was afraid that this meant my clutch was slipping, but i have read here in the forums that a clutch that slips is described as:

"best way to tell if a clutch is slipping is to put your front tires against a curb or log, put it into third gear and let out the clutch... the engine should die, if not then your clutch is toast."

Mine is just the opposite, i can get into a gear, and when i need to stop, I can push my clutch pedal down, and it will not disengage so i can shift into neutral. I have actually killed the truck several times because I have to stop, but cant get it out of gear. if i pump the clutch petal, then I can shift. The point that the clutch enguages is also changing all the time.

I have looked at the level of fluid, and it was slightly low, bout a quarter on an inch, so i added more, but still have the problem.

No leaks noted under my truck, and only recent change was i added HFS 4 in lift.

Any thought? do i need to bleed the lines for some reason?

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Old 01-06-09, 09:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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bleeding

does sound like it needs bleeding for the amount of work it is worth trying before moving on to anything else.

funny that it came on with no other work done on it though

possibly the slave cylinder? I would look down at the slave cylinder while someone pushes it then pumps it and see how it moves.

but I would bleed it first and get that out of the way

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Old 01-06-09, 09:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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it's either the master or the slave...

one of them is blowing by...since your fluid level is staying constant, i'd suspect the master is blowing by and not pushing fluid...if it's the slave, you should see leaking fluid...

when mine went, I replaced them as a set

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Old 01-06-09, 09:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it's either the master or the slave...

one of them is blowing by...since your fluid level is staying constant, i'd suspect the master is blowing by and not pushing fluid...if it's the slave, you should see leaking fluid...

when mine went, I replaced them as a set
TRY AND BLEED IT 1ST!!!!!! It's cheaper but most likely one of them is shot.

Yeah, I've been down this road before on several vehicles, most of the time it was the slave. I've only had one that leaked. As mentioned above replacing them both is recommended. I've replaced several slaves and then had to replace the master several months to a year later. the seals inside fall apart and age. don't forget to get a new hose too.

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Hey one thing about it............ Heck of a lot better than the clutch going out!!!!
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Old 01-07-09, 12:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Check to see if you have moisture build up in th bottom of the cup,clutch fluid hates moisture and it cogulates at the bottom of the bowl blocking the fluid to pass.
Use DOT 4 or 5 rated fluid to avoid this problem it cost more but worth it if you do alot of puddle splashing.
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Old 01-07-09, 07:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Dieseler,

Do you mean that there would be moisture in the reservoir and it would be below the break fluid?

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Thanks for the quick replies.. I will try to bleed the line in the next day or so and see if this resolves my issues, otherwise, i will replace both units as advised.

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Old 01-07-09, 11:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Check the adjusting nuts on the back of the pedal and the push rod from the slave. You might be able to get a little more play and get it to engage/disengage...

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