[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by GLTHFJ60

GOOD WORK MAN!! Think it'll produce more power now that it's injected? I bet it will run more efficiently.

I don't know about more power. The last 40 I had I had the engine rebuilt and I was running a GM HEI with a 38 webber and SOR headers. I had 4.11 gears a 4 speed and 33x12.5 tires. It ran pretty dang good, but only got 5-7 mpg. That is all I really have to compare it too.

[Mace]

no 2F that is getting 5-7 mpg is running pretty dang good..

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by Mace

no 2F that is getting 5-7 mpg is running pretty dang good..

At the time my right foot was significantly heavier than it currently is.

[Mace]

Originally Posted by joeyg1973

At the time my right foot was significantly heavier than it currently is.

Makes no difference.
There is no way for a 2F to use that much fuel..

[joeyg1973]

It did... trust me it did.

[Mace]

Originally Posted by joeyg1973

It did... trust me it did.

I believe it got 4 mpg....


But I do not believe it was running well.

[joeyg1973]

Mace,

You are right. I took a trip in it from Decatur, GA to Myrtle Beach, SC. That's about 360 miles and it took me a full tank plus 2 Jerry cans. 360/30= 12 mpg.

[antFJ]

awesome! sounds great if you ask me! have we seen a picture of the truck its going in yet?? hehe

[Mace]

Originally Posted by joeyg1973

Mace,

You are right. I took a trip in it from Decatur, GA to Myrtle Beach, SC. That's about 360 miles and it took me a full tank plus 2 Jerry cans. 360/30= 12 mpg.

Your fuel tank was 20 galls?

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by Mace

Your fuel tank was 20 galls?

Couldn't think of or find on the google the size of a 72 fj-40 tank so I went generic size for the era.

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by antFJ

awesome! sounds great if you ask me! have we seen a picture of the truck its going in yet?? hehe

Oh there are pictures here and there on this thread. Got the cucumber coating off for the most part and I started to fix the rust and rollover damage that was discovered once the green bumpy truckbed coating came off.

[joeyg1973]

Every once and a while you find something, no matter how well known or unknown the product is, that amazes you. I have found such a product.

One word.

Hylomar.


It's the bee's knees.

[joeyg1973]

Hylomar sealed things up nicely... I got a 650 idle and it sounds nice. Still tuning... not much more tuning I can do though without a load on the engine. Gonna have to wait till it is in the truck for that tuning.

YouTube - cucumber 2f running better

Amuarer can attest to how nice it sounds if the video doesn't get the message across. I let him listen too it via google voice.

[orangefj45]

Originally Posted by joeyg1973

Couldn't think of or find on the google the size of a 72 fj-40 tank so I went generic size for the era.

is that the "scientific approach"?! i figure if somebody is trying this hard to polish a turd ( blown injected hei boat anchor ) then they'd at least know the size of the gas tank in the vehicle of=r a way to find out how much fuel it holds.

[FJ40Jim]

Originally Posted by orangefj45

is that the "scientific approach"?! i figure if somebody is trying this hard to polish a turd ( blown injected hei boat anchor ) then they'd at least know the size of the gas tank in the vehicle or a way to find out how much fuel it holds.

Don't poke the bear!

[orangefj45]

Come awn Jim, lemme have a little fun!

i'm not going to follow suit with the usual mudder group hug on this one. If you're gonna come on here yapping all this book smarts then you'd better carry it all the way thru the thread. Just calling a spade a spade.

And just to make sure that there's no risk of this being deemed chat; maybe Joey should consider utilizing a GPS unit to determine the true distance travelled and start with a full tank, then fill it again at the end of the trip, making sure to keep track of the fuel stops and how much fuel was added. That way he could come up with actual data instead of spewing more mis-information on here.


6mpg?! Good running 2f!?

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by FJ40Jim

Don't poke the bear!

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by orangefj45

Come awn Jim, lemme have a little fun!

i'm not going to follow suit with the usual mudder group hug on this one. If you're gonna come on here yapping all this book smarts then you'd better carry it all the way thru the thread. Just calling a spade a spade.

And just to make sure that there's no risk of this being deemed chat; maybe Joey should consider utilizing a GPS unit to determine the true distance travelled and start with a full tank, then fill it again at the end of the trip, making sure to keep track of the fuel stops and how much fuel was added. That way he could come up with actual data instead of spewing more mis-information on here.


6mpg?! Good running 2f!?

I haven't seen that 40 since I sold it around 2000 and the trip down to Savanah was around 99. I even said I was wrong on my estimates of mpg based on some generic numbers that came to mind for that era. You're kicking a dead horse. I am not book smart at all but I am not afraid of them either. I am going to ask nicely for you to please stop with the poor attitude. I haven't been nice to you either and I appologize for that. So please just let it be. I am tired of this.

[orangefj45]

good enough.

i guess my biggest gripe with this "conversion" is very simple; "WHY"? i realize that you're trying to think outside the box. and i appreciate that. without people willing to take a risk on something new, things would become stagnant very soon.
in theory, some of your ideas seem ok, but your engine concept is far from practical. why use a bunch of esoteric parts from so many different sources when you can take a direction that would make things a lot more serviceable and up-to-date?
i've done a few conversions. if there's anything i've learned, then it's to make things as simple as possible and to use as many oem components as possible. pays dividends down the road.........but then again, maybe i'm getting old and set in my ways.

[joeyg1973]

Originally Posted by orangefj45

good enough.

i guess my biggest gripe with this "conversion" is very simple; "WHY"? i realize that you're trying to think outside the box. and i appreciate that. without people willing to take a risk on something new, things would become stagnant very soon.
in theory, some of your ideas seem ok, but your engine concept is far from practical. why use a bunch of esoteric parts from so many different sources when you can take a direction that would make things a lot more serviceable and up-to-date?
i've done a few conversions. if there's anything i've learned, then it's to make things as simple as possible and to use as many oem components as possible. pays dividends down the road.........but then again, maybe i'm getting old and set in my ways.

I went this path because more than anything it was a challenge and that is the only way one learns something very well is by digging in and getting eyeballs deep in it. I knew the theory of how an engine, fuel injection, electronic ignition, and an ECM works, but not the details. I wouldn't have learne anything I had just gone with a gm ecu. It's a black box to me. What I have learned though is all the base details and now I can apply that knowledge to any engine, fuel injection, electronic spark, and ecu. I can also now use the electrical engineering knowledge to a whole bunch of things. And the MS isn't really that essoteric it has been used tens of thousands of times to great sucess and reliablity. There are no moving parts in the ecu it is all solid state built from components that have been in production for years. I will have to rebuild the engine before I will need to replace the MS. I personally believe that the reliabilty of my MS2/extra is just as good as any ecu on the market.