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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winchester, IL
Posts: 20
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FJ40 stalling, fuel pump problem?
I have a 1978 FJ40 that idles and runs great for a short distance, then it stalls out. If you let it sit for a few minutes, it will start up again and only run for short time until it stalls out again. I have checked the tank for anything in the tank, changed the fuel filter. Could it be the fuel pump? Or could it possibly be a vent problem? Any help would be great
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Dog is my co-pilot.
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Hi All:
Stock mechanical fuel pump or aftermarket electric fuel pump? Are you using the stock-type closed cylinder fuel filters or the generic aftermarket clear plastic ones? Any debris at all in the fuel filter? Have you drained and flushed-up the fuel tank? Sorry, no easy answers to a question like this. Good luck! Alan |
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Ramblin Wreck
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Georgia Tech
Posts: 5,809
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try removing the gas cap
__________________ Bailey Quintrell '74 FJ40--37 Irocks-32 Bolt 'Locks-SM420-ARB-XD9000i-FJ60 PS-MetalTech Cage '93 FZJ80-DD-Part Time 4wd-locked-5" lifted-snorkel-bullbar-315 AT's '97 FZJ80 '98 UZJ100-OEM RR locker ΣΧ
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Spokane Wa.
Posts: 124
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Feel your pain
Been there done that.
I agree on the gas cap. improper desmogging can lead to no tank vent. ![]() In the end I replaced my fuel pump and Voila!
__________________ 1970 fj40 f engine 3sp w/floor shift 2.5 procomp lift 32" AT tires, Warn Bellvue winch. Evolution Blog http://dirtsquirtfj40.blogspot.com/ |
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springfield user
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when it dies.
if you try to refire right after it stalls, what happens? does it try to light or just turn over with no effort to catch? __________________ it's only metal, we can out think it. 77-fj40 20th anniversary edition 87-fj60 216K mile DDer 93-fzj80 mall crawler toyota material distribution center. your source for Factory Service Manuals. they're alot cheaper than you think. 1-800-622-2033 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winchester, IL
Posts: 20
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When I initially start it, it runs great. But after driving about a half mile it dies. I can start it back up, but it will not run very long. Really acts like it's starved for fuel. I am going to try the gas cap removal today and see if it's a venting problem. I have had the carb rebuilt and desmogged. Thanks for the help
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,874
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Sure the fuel cut solenoid has power and is working?
__________________ world's cleanest 89 FJ-62, and a few parts... 85 xcab hilux 4x4 resto'ed, 67 XKE, 1500 Vulcan, 80 Fj40 under resto..mine now! ! 03 Tacoma TRD SR5, Suzuki DR350 Born to raise Hell! Right after my nap. |
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Ramblin Wreck
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Georgia Tech
Posts: 5,809
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I've had this issue twice.
1st time- bad gas cap 2nd time- failing fuel pump Most vacuum guages can test fuel pump pressure as well. A good tool to have and very useful in this particular instance. __________________ Bailey Quintrell '74 FJ40--37 Irocks-32 Bolt 'Locks-SM420-ARB-XD9000i-FJ60 PS-MetalTech Cage '93 FZJ80-DD-Part Time 4wd-locked-5" lifted-snorkel-bullbar-315 AT's '97 FZJ80 '98 UZJ100-OEM RR locker ΣΧ
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winchester, IL
Posts: 20
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I have tried removing the gas cap and it still stalls. When it does quit, I pop the hood and checked the site glass on the carb, shows no gas. I let it sit for about 5 minutes and start it and it will finally start and gas will slowly fill about half way up on site glass. Then I can go a short distance and it quits again with the sight glass being empty. I have remplaced the fuel filter twice, drained the gas from the tank, checked in the top of the tank and it dosen't look like there is anything in my tank. Can I mechanical fuel pump act up in this manor? After sitting for several hours, it will start and run great and then just stall. The motor is stock, the carb has been completely rebuilt by Jim at TLC. Let me know what you guys think.
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IH8MUD Regular
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There was a local guy here with a 40 that had a similar problem. He had a small hole in the bladder of the fuel pump, and once it warmed up, it would leak, and fail to pump. Once his rig cooled back down, it would start and run again. If the sight glass is empty, you've ruled out the fuel filter, and you've checked the tank for obstructions, it sounds like the pump is the culprit to me.
__________________ Columbia, SC 71 FJ40 little Swampers, cheap lockers, big winch 72 FJ40 stocker with PTO winch 85 FJ60 lawn ornament 87 FJ60 w/ H55F |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Winchester, IL
Posts: 20
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I have tried the fuel cap, new fuel pump, drained the fuel tank, fuel filter, and cannot for the life of me get this problem fixed. It will run forever when it just sits and idles, but when I drive it a couple of miles it stalls out. Any other suggestions fellas? Thanks
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Owens Valley
Posts: 251
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Perform a fuel pressure AND volume test on it. Toyota used to provide pressure and volume spec's in the service manual....
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Spokane Wa.
Posts: 124
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Man that sucks
Based on you posts.. you are having a fuel delivery issue.
The sight glass drops. Could be: 1 Fuel lines from the tank to the fuel pump. Swollen or pinched or partially plugged. Remove inlet to the pump and back blow. remove the gas cap regulate shop air to 15psi and try a back blow if nothing else this may dislodge chips or rust particles and move em back to the tank. 2 Disconnect the fuel pump outlet and the other end at the carb. Blow this line also from the carb end. 4 replace the entire fuel line from the the tank to the pump. wouldnt hurt. the old one is 30yrs old. 5 not having a stock carb.. i cant attest to how hard it is to remove the fuel bowl and blow out fuel passage to the float. 6 other than that you have done everything I woulda done I feel your pain . good luck
__________________ 1970 fj40 f engine 3sp w/floor shift 2.5 procomp lift 32" AT tires, Warn Bellvue winch. Evolution Blog http://dirtsquirtfj40.blogspot.com/ |
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