Need some help

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:09 AM

I am trying to put all the smog stuff on my uber rare 1976 California Spec FJ40. I say Ubber rare since it has the system that has the double threaded ends on the EGR tube and the special exhaust manifold. Build date is Nov 1975.

I need a picture of your egine compartment. I have 3 FSM plus a 2 Toyota emmsion manual as well as a Haynes and a Chilton for this set up. The emmission manual has cartoon like pictures and is very detailed on how to diagnose things but I need to know where to bolt the stuff.

Thanks

Dan

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:16 AM

Cruiserbrett in San Diego is the only one that I know of who has this same system.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:40 AM

Here is what I have right now.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:43 AM

Here is my Pile O Parts to pick and choose from.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:44 AM

A few more.

FJ40Jim · 05-04-08, 11:45 AM

I have seen a truck recently with the complete 1976 cali emission setup still underhood.

PM CW44 on here, see if he can send you a pic of his.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJ40Jim

I have seen a truck recently with the complete 1976 cali emission setup still underhood.

PM CW44 on here, see if he can send you a pic of his.

Thanks Jim

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 03:54 PM

Here is where I am right now.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 03:57 PM

What is the difference between the EGR Valve and the EGR Port?

On my VSV it has a nipple for both.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 03:58 PM

This is the BSV but is it also called the EGR port?

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 04:01 PM

With every thing hooked up as far I can get it, I still have this open nipple.

Where does the hose come from that plugs into here?

Top picture is looking form the passenger side. Look to the right and just below the red electrical connector in the middle of the pic.

Bottom picture is a close up of the nipple on the cast iron piece on the bottom of the carburetor.

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 04:41 PM

Should I be using the # 17650- 61010 VSV or the # 17650-61040 VSV?

inkpot · 05-04-08, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D'Animal

What is the difference between the EGR Valve and the EGR Port?

On my little vacuum duehickey thingy that has all the nipples on it that I bolted to the fender it has a nipple for both.

Howdy! I would think the "valve" nipple should have a line from the VSV down to the actual big round valve body with the diaphram in it, and the other nipple should have a line down the the vacuum source port on the manifold. John

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D'Animal

I need a picture of your egine compartment.

I have 5 FSM plus an Toyota emmsion manual for this set up.

The emmission manual has cartoon like pictures and is very detailed on how to diagnose things but I need to know where to bolt the stuff.

Just so you all don't think I'm BS'ing you.

FJ40 TOOLMAN · 05-04-08, 05:48 PM

Plugged with rubber plug on a 75 FJ40

FJ40 TOOLMAN · 05-04-08, 06:03 PM

On the picture of gulp valve the line goes to intake manifold behind egr valve,adapter that has three hoses .

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJ40 TOOLMAN

On the picture of gulp valve the line goes to intake manifold behind egr valve,adapter that has three hoses .

Which one is the Gulp Valve?

FJ40 TOOLMAN · 05-04-08, 07:40 PM

In the picture "is this the egr port"

CW44 · 05-04-08, 08:31 PM

D'Animal - I will try and get some photos for you tommorow. I dont know how much help i will be otherwise as i just aquired my "landcrusher" last fall. I'm not sure if mine has the "double threaded ends on the egr tube" so maybe we will both learn something. - CW

D'Animal · 05-04-08, 09:48 PM

Thanks!

Jim Chenowith says you have what I need to see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CW44

D'Animal - I will try and get some photos for you tommorow. I dont know how much help i will be otherwise as i just aquired my "landcrusher" last fall. I'm not sure if mine has the "double threaded ends on the egr tube" so maybe we will both learn something. - CW

FJ40 MNTCRZR · 05-05-08, 10:33 AM

I have a 77 that is all hooked up and passes smog everytime, i am in fresno. you can come by and look if you want, not sure if pics will help ya...

GL ...

FJ40Jim · 05-05-08, 11:56 AM

Dan, there's a good drawing of vac routing and a schematic in the Haynes book.
See fig 3.100 & 3.101.

I thought initially you only needed to see the positioning of the components.
The vac hose routing on CW44's truck is not stock, but all the stock parts are there.

D'Animal · 05-05-08, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJ40 MNTCRZR

I have a 77 that is all hooked up and passes smog everytime, i am in fresno. you can come by and look if you want, not sure if pics will help ya...

GL ...

Thanks!

Could you look at your VSV and see the part number on it? It is the black box on the driverside inner fender that has all the hoses connected to it. I have 4 VSV's and cannot tell which one to use on the 1976.

I will be doing my 1977 FJ40 after I get my 1976 done.

CW44 · 05-05-08, 08:18 PM

here are the pics i took today... i hope they are helpful. If they do not depict what you need to see let me know, and i will take more if you tell me what to photograph specifically. I am no engine wizard(yet) like jim, but I'll do what i can to help. - CW

CW44 · 05-05-08, 08:22 PM

3 more...

CW44 · 05-05-08, 08:24 PM

and...

D'Animal · 05-06-08, 08:10 AM

Jim?

Quote:

Originally Posted by D'Animal

Should I be using the # 17650- 61010 VSV or the # 17650-61040 VSV?

They have different amount of nipples on them.

05-04-08, 11:09 AM	#1
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Need some help I am trying to put all the smog stuff on my uber rare 1976 California Spec FJ40. I say Ubber rare since it has the system that has the double threaded ends on the EGR tube and the special exhaust manifold. Build date is Nov 1975. I need a picture of your egine compartment. I have 3 FSM plus a 2 Toyota emmsion manual as well as a Haynes and a Chilton for this set up. The emmission manual has cartoon like pictures and is very detailed on how to diagnose things but I need to know where to bolt the stuff. Thanks Dan __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan) Last edited by D'Animal; 05-06-08 at 12:53 PM.

05-04-08, 11:16 AM	#2
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Cruiserbrett in San Diego is the only one that I know of who has this same system. __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 11:40 AM	#3
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Here is what I have right now. Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 11:43 AM	#4
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Here is my Pile O Parts to pick and choose from. Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 11:44 AM	#5
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	A few more. Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 11:45 AM	#6
FJ40Jim Cruiser Curmudgeon Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lancaster, Ohio, USA TLCA# 1914 Posts: 3,160	I have seen a truck recently with the complete 1976 cali emission setup still underhood. PM CW44 on here, see if he can send you a pic of his. __________________ Thanks, Jim C. TLC Performance Underhood Janitor, cleaning up other people's since 1988.

05-04-08, 03:54 PM	#8
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Here is where I am right now. Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 03:57 PM	#9
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	What is the difference between the EGR Valve and the EGR Port? On my VSV it has a nipple for both. __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan) Last edited by D'Animal; 05-06-08 at 01:01 PM.

05-04-08, 03:58 PM	#10
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	This is the BSV but is it also called the EGR port? Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan) Last edited by D'Animal; 05-06-08 at 01:01 PM.

05-04-08, 04:01 PM	#11
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	With every thing hooked up as far I can get it, I still have this open nipple. Where does the hose come from that plugs into here? Top picture is looking form the passenger side. Look to the right and just below the red electrical connector in the middle of the pic. Bottom picture is a close up of the nipple on the cast iron piece on the bottom of the carburetor. Attached Images __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 04:41 PM	#12
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103	Should I be using the # 17650- 61010 VSV or the # 17650-61040 VSV? __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan)

05-04-08, 05:48 PM	#15
FJ40 TOOLMAN IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 66	Plugged with rubber plug on a 75 FJ40

05-04-08, 06:03 PM	#16
FJ40 TOOLMAN IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 66	On the picture of gulp valve the line goes to intake manifold behind egr valve,adapter that has three hoses .

05-04-08, 07:40 PM	#18
FJ40 TOOLMAN IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 66	In the picture "is this the egr port"

05-04-08, 08:31 PM	#19
CW44 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio TLCA# 18839 Posts: 118	cali emmissions D'Animal - I will try and get some photos for you tommorow. I dont know how much help i will be otherwise as i just aquired my "landcrusher" last fall. I'm not sure if mine has the "double threaded ends on the egr tube" so maybe we will both learn something. - CW

05-05-08, 10:33 AM	#21
FJ40 MNTCRZR IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali TLCA# 16256 Posts: 537	I have a 77 that is all hooked up and passes smog everytime, i am in fresno. you can come by and look if you want, not sure if pics will help ya... GL ... __________________ " IF I HAD TO EXPLAIN,YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND " 2008 Sandstorm FJC FJ40 LEXUS HARLEY THE GOOD LIFE !

05-05-08, 11:56 AM	#22
FJ40Jim Cruiser Curmudgeon Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lancaster, Ohio, USA TLCA# 1914 Posts: 3,160	Dan, there's a good drawing of vac routing and a schematic in the Haynes book. See fig 3.100 & 3.101. I thought initially you only needed to see the positioning of the components. The vac hose routing on CW44's truck is not stock, but all the stock parts are there. __________________ Thanks, Jim C. TLC Performance Underhood Janitor, cleaning up other people's since 1988.

05-05-08, 08:18 PM	#24
CW44 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio TLCA# 18839 Posts: 118	pics here are the pics i took today... i hope they are helpful. If they do not depict what you need to see let me know, and i will take more if you tell me what to photograph specifically. I am no engine wizard(yet) like jim, but I'll do what i can to help. - CW Attached Images

05-05-08, 08:22 PM	#25
CW44 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio TLCA# 18839 Posts: 118	more pics 3 more... Attached Images

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CW44 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ohio TLCA# 18839 Posts: 118	last one and... Attached Images

05-06-08, 09:33 AM	#28
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 10,103