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Sweet rig.. I don't think I would call her ugly !!! I have seen alot more rust than that on other rigs...
Great find I hope that you enjoy....
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Thanx man. This is a first for me so I am doing lots of reading and I am learning as I go.Actually the rust doesn't look as bad as I originally thought.The worst is in the hard top/gutter area.I have been wirewheeling the rusted spots on the outside of the tub and treating that, just to stop it from spreading untill I can strip her down completely.Next I will move to the inside of the tub and do the same.PO had the rust treated but not sure how good.There is way more bondo on her than rust  Sofar I have found mainly smallish holes in the usual areas and a few spots where the bondo was cracked and the metal underneath has gone darker(if that makes any sense)? My thinking is to wheel the whole thing down to bare metal in order to see how bad/good she really is ?
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ugly betty
Here's my Project "Ugly Betty" although she looks better now with the lift and BFGs on her. So there are two Ugly Betty's on the board now!
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i wish i had your ugly betty.
i dont want to now wat mine would be called
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ugly?
I've seen a lot of ugly ducklings turn into swans on this board!
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33 in BFGs, 4 inch HFS lift, Durabak, Paki Khaki top, Now sportin a RUNNING 2F and 4 speed!
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Here's my Project "Ugly Betty" although she looks better now with the lift and BFGs on her. So there are two Ugly Betty's on the board now! 
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 Apologies for that, it was Swambo who named her and I didn't bother to check  You are a lot further than me though and the lift and tyres looks great!
Just came back and happy to announce that she just passed her roadworthy test ! 
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Further?
I don't know about further the body is off now and I'm stripping the frame. At first I was going to do the lift and a fix up but once I saw the metal was in good shape I knew I had to preserve it or watch it rot away so I got to work.
Yours looks pretty good, what plans do you have for it?
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Yours looks pretty good, what plans do you have for it?
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Plans, mmm she has got most of the good stuff OEM already so once I have dealt with the rust I am thinking 4" Parabolics, 33x12.5/10.5 and the turbo I have waiting in a box in my garage  The plans for dealing with the rust though, seem to change as I discover the true shape of the truck which also seems to change from day to day. Yesterday I removed the old Mask bumper and found that although the bezel itself is 100% the bib is not in good shape.I also found some patch welding on the left rear corner which had not been grinded down properly(even I as a complete noob could see it).Instead it was flatened out by using lots of bondo which is probably why, just about the whole truck is covered thick with bondo  . The fact that the 4*'s were never released in ZA means I have to either preserve/fabricate or import anything that I cannot source off an old 45 ser. Therefore I have to go frame-off and take the risk to galv the frame.POR15 is not availeble down here at all and importing enough of it to do the frame will cost wise not make sense as shipping is a killer. I would like to do this only once and never have to deal with the rust again.I don't want a showroom truck as she will be used regularly for trails and even short overlanding trips.I will post some pics later today so you guys can judge the state of the rust yourself.I will appreciate any advice/comments etc
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Nice work, Theo! Really wish I had the tools here to do those things myself, but at least the panel beater has a really good welder. Keep plugging - it'll be worth it at the end
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top score nice looking 40 the rust is easy to fix along as she  good thats all you need
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Thanks for the kind words but to set the record straight, those welds are not mine. I have a beater who comes around to help me, so my participation has been limited to some cutting, grinding and some shaping of the patches, but I am learning so .....
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mate he's worth his weight in bronze, its looking great, keep it up.......the patches are tops too so dont sell yourself short
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looking good
Getting stuck in I see!
Isn't removing all the old paint fun?
keep up the good work, nice posts
It helps to have all those pre disassembly photos later
Just a tip if you pull the wiring loom take good photos of the under dash routing
I used tape and a perm marker on each wire to id where it goes--beats looking at wire colors in the schematic
If you ever find one of those tachs laying around let me know I have a big ol hole in the dash to fill!
It gets better but there is no getting around the hard slog up front
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71 FJ frame off build "UGLY BETTY" http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...y-betty-5.html
33 in BFGs, 4 inch HFS lift, Durabak, Paki Khaki top, Now sportin a RUNNING 2F and 4 speed!
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Getting stuck in I see!
Isn't removing all the old paint fun?
keep up the good work, nice posts
It helps to have all those pre disassembly photos later
Just a tip if you pull the wiring loom take good photos of the under dash routing
I used tape and a perm marker on each wire to id where it goes--beats looking at wire colors in the schematic
If you ever find one of those tachs laying around let me know I have a big ol hole in the dash to fill!
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Thanx man. Yeah unfortunately winter came early so we couldn't spray the tub with the Rust Bullet, so now the rest of the body work will have to wait for about 2.5 months.
I have taken about a gazillion pics already and still continue to do so. When I did the wiring loom I took lots of pics and as you said, marked every wire, plug etc with tape and a sharpie.I even made detailed notes about it  but I am sure when the time comes to put her back together it would have been worth it
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