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****Canvas maintenance **** OEM Soft Tops
Since I’ve been getting a lot of questions about canvas …here is a list of the do’s and don’ts 
I have military coated canvas...Ehsan’s canvas is waxed…but should be taken care of in the same manner as military canvas and any coated canvas.
1) To clean canvas, do not remove it from the vehicle. Either brush it dry with a stiff brush, or hose it off with clean water only.
NEVER brush or rub canvas when wet!!!
Doing this will remove the canvas finish which consists of the color and the water/mildew resistant preservative.
2) Canvas stores best on a vehicle that’s stored under cover (garaged J) if it must be removed wait until it is completely dry. Fold it carefully (protecting the window plastic) Store it in a dry place away from direct sunlight, dampness, and rodents.
NEVER remove canvas from the vehicle when it is wet!!!
3) It is normal for canvas to shrink when it is wet.
4) It is normal for the finish (color and preservative) to rub off and or fade overtime.
5) New canvas will usually “shrink to fit” the vehicle. Looseness is usually designed into the canvas and will tighten up after going through a couple of wet and dry cycles.
6) To renew the water and mildew resistant finish, you should apply a coat of Canvak canvas preservative every year or two.
Canvak is a colorless liquid that can be applied by roller, spray (spray in the recomended method) or brush. A gallon does about 100 sqft.
7) To clean the plastic windows, first hose off heavy dirt with water. Then use a soft cloth with a product such as Plexus designed for cleaning vinyl windows.
Any furthur questions feel free to ask
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06-05-07, 11:31 AM
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I have a canvis top and asked this ? to all the hunters I know.
No one knew.
Where do you get the canvak???
I have had my top on 2 years the top rag is NFG.
Leaks like a speg. strainer now. Needs a restoration.
Looked online and couldn't find anything to recoat the canvas.
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06-05-07, 11:39 AM
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http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0005871513996a.shtml
this is a big company that sells canvak...alot of different places sell canvak online......you may even need a seam sealer if you let it go too long
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06-05-07, 12:32 PM
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I use Canvak to retreat all my canvas tarps. It stinks baaaaad, but it works.
Good stuff.
ed
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06-05-07, 03:54 PM
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Meguiar's Mirror Glaze works real well for rag top windows. I learned about it from an aircraft mechanic who used it on airplane windows. Wouldn't touch them with anything else. I've had good luck with it.
For example: http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars1017.html
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06-10-07, 04:38 PM
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canvas :)
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06-10-07, 07:14 PM
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canvas pose
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06-11-07, 07:57 AM
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the small pic below is in this order: Khaki, OD #3, OD#7
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08-02-07, 08:37 PM
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out side with sides rolled up
inside pic
and weather flaps over the zippers
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08-15-07, 12:22 PM
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You might try these guys for canvas supplies: http://www.jgatech.com/beachwood/yourvehicle.cfm. They furnish lots for military vehicle rehabs.  Ned
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12-01-07, 05:05 PM
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BigDaddy...BigRedFJ40's rig
love the look Chris
get it back on the road Chris
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12-01-07, 08:58 PM
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Quote:
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BigDaddy...BigRedFJ40's rig
love the look Chris
get it back on the road Chris
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Boy Johnny.... my rig sure looked good then. Dosen't look like that anymore since I rolled it
All in time she will be back together again......  
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01-08-08, 08:56 AM
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OEM canvas configurations i have seen come in:
1 window...no side windows ( van style )
3 window...1 in back, 1 on either side
5 window...1 in back, 2 on either side
7 window...3 windows in back (2 smaller 1/4 windows and 1 center window), 2 on either side (called the 'seven window' soft top some people call it the safari top...but have yet to see one on a safari rig  )
and then the Ambi door soft tops
then you have zipper windows and/or twist lock windows
I will post some pics up soon...kinda forgot to add to this thread
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01-08-08, 09:14 AM
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fj25 3 window
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01-08-08, 09:15 AM
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vinyl top
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01-08-08, 09:20 AM
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standard type 'A' rear tailgate
Type 'B' rear barn doors
Type 'C' Ambi doors
note the twist lock windows (removable windows)
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01-08-08, 09:25 AM
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every true OEM canvas top i have seen...most every have the two seams down the top of the top...they may have ones with no seams...but have not seen any in pics from factory or from that era
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01-08-08, 09:30 AM
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Chad Smithson's ....previously Dave Reljic's true 7 window config top in vinyl...or did chad sell it? (edit  ) now owned by our very own Mudder "Cruiser4life" nice rig
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01-08-08, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
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Meguiar's Mirror Glaze works real well for rag top windows.
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01-08-08, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
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every true OEM canvas top i have seen...all have the two seams down the top of the top...they may have ones with no seams...but have not seen any in pics from factory or from that era
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do you think this is because of manufacturing costs? i've been pricing canvas rolls and see large jumps when asking for canvas wide enough to cover the whole width of the cab. any idea the distance between those two seams?
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Quote:
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Chad Smithson's ....previously Dave Reljic's true 7 window config top in vinyl...or did chad sell it?
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Still around. UC member owns it. Nice cruiser.
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ambi door with 2 side windows on both sides
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01-08-08, 03:36 PM
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sor rig with removable sides and rear panels...using twistlocks
3 window config
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I have used treating oil that we brushed onto the canvas. Interestingly it still soaked through the first time it got wet in the rain, but after that it tightened up (after drying) and never leaked again, even around the seams  .
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randy elkin's oem top 3 window config w/twist lock rear window
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vinyl and a
5 window config
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