ROTW, Don't Laugh

Alz Toy · 05-06-07, 07:58 PM

I guess its my turn, so here goes. FIRST of all, I want to thank " Team Mud ", reguardless if you were a question asker, or answer'er. I've learned a whole lot, and attempted/finished more on this truck because of Mudd than I ever thought. Enough of that, now on to my Cruiser. I bought my first Cruiser just out of HS, back in the mid 70's. It was a '67, with a 283, and Kayline soft top. I put a Saginaw p/s setup on it, and the mandatory ( at the time ) Armstrong Tru-Trac's. Had a couple more with the 6, stock '66 model, and a '74 that got modded, curtiosy of Downey Toyota. Fast forward about 20 years, and I get the fever agin. I found Mud thru Pirate, looking in the mini section for stuff of interest for my 4 Runner. I had a pretty good idea what I wanted, so watched the classifed's here, Pirate, and E-Bay. I wound up with a '77 model, that came with an Advanced Handeling kit SR, a lift of unknown mfg , 4 WDB, aux fuel tank in rear, full cage, Auburn LSD in the rear, good body and paint, and your typical rusty spots. I've had it roughly 2.5 yrs now, and have done a few " mods". First I flipped the brackets on the SR, along with the springs, added Scout p/s and drove it that way for awhile. Went to Flat Nasty, and discovered my suspension sucked, and wound up with a Smoky Mtn kit from TPI. Lots better. Rode in Mike Costello's truck at Flat Nasty, and thought " hey, these SM 420's are kind'a cool ". As luck would have it, my brother gave me one out of a '66 GMC, so that got the wheels in my head turning. Swapped my 4.11's for some 3.70's, added an Aussie in the rear, and moved the Auburn to the front. Redid the front with mini knuckles and arms, as it needed it anyways. So with the exception of the 420, and my spare case I'm rebuilding, here's some pic's for your viewing pleasure. Hey, if your up in the Northwest, and can shed some light on this trucks background, PM me

Alz Toy · 05-06-07, 08:05 PM

350 Chev, Comp 254 4x4 cam ( 210 @.050/ 218 @ .050 .447"/.462" 111 LC ), Edelbrock Performer EPS manifold, 600 Holley, and recent HEI upgrade

Alz Toy · 05-06-07, 08:16 PM

Smoky Mtn 2/4 kit for shackle reversal. Showing shackle angle mainly. Expect them to settle some in time. TPI's kit ( Belton Spring ) moves the rear some to center in the wheel well.

Alz Toy · 05-06-07, 08:31 PM

Haven't done much with the inside. Put a CB in it, and pulled the heater 'cause it was leaking. Its on the list.

Alz Toy · 05-06-07, 08:39 PM

Here's something I'm fooling with off and on. With 3.70's in the diff's to cut hiway RPM, this will be my low gear option. Pic's for Scout box didn't go thru, something about bmp files. Well, there it is, you can laugh now

. See 'ya, Al

camcruiser13 · 05-06-07, 08:58 PM

nice truck

dirtywilks · 05-06-07, 09:00 PM

Looks Great Man!!

crazylandcruiser · 05-06-07, 09:06 PM

Looks great. no laughing at all just impressed looks like a lot of fun!

PScottBx · 05-06-07, 09:08 PM

No laughing here... nice rig bud.

...and thanks for posting it.

Good luck w/ your future projects and keep postin.

Scott

KY854RUN · 05-06-07, 09:17 PM

Why would you worry about anyone laughing? That is a real nice rig. I would get laughed at because my 40 is in storage

and has been for longer than I will say.

rangerJ401973 · 05-06-07, 11:20 PM

Looks Great!!

Now I need to catch up with you!

Tim

1phrogguy · 05-07-07, 06:39 AM

Your rig is in great shape, mine is no rock crawler either. Looks great.

jhaha · 05-07-07, 08:58 AM

Great truck! Good luck with the 420

missipboy · 05-07-07, 09:54 AM

nice rig.

65CRUISER · 05-07-07, 12:18 PM

Why laugh, that's a nice cruiser and it's a great color.

Moe R · 05-07-07, 03:12 PM

I like it! Nice rig!!

F-junker · 05-07-07, 03:55 PM

I'm laughing because that thing looks like a beauty compared to mine!!
Nice job on the rig of the week!!

Alz Toy · 05-07-07, 04:31 PM

Thanks Guys, makes me feel good

. See if this works, steering box is out of a '77 Scout, steering shaft a '95 T-100 cut down to fit. Made my own relay rod ( 3/4 Toy,1/4 Jeep ) , and sleeved the tierod, as it was bent slightly, to beef it up.Thats about it right now. Thanks for the chance to share my truck with you Guy's ( and Gal's ). Al

JRFJ4- · 05-07-07, 08:51 PM

Great looking ride. Love the color.

JR

KOOTENAY KRUZER · 05-07-07, 09:34 PM

Nice looking truck. Way better shape than either of mine. Looking at the picture that shows your front driveshaft, it looks to be extended about the same as mine. When I picked up front end of my truck by the bumper the driveshaft almost came apart. I suggest you try it, you might be suprised. Flexing isn't a problem because when one wheel goes down the other goes up (relative to the frame) and the slipjoint doesn't move much. With a SR the axle moves forward when it moves away from the frame, so the front driveshaft usually has to lengthened. Try not to get any front end air until you check it out.

camcruiser13 · 05-08-07, 12:00 AM

what ps pump bracket you got on there?

scouthead · 05-08-07, 02:29 AM

Great lookin 40... reminds me of my buddy's high school ride. I'm gonna go kick his ass and make him get it out of storage.
How do you like the scout power steering? I think the 55 I'm building is gonna get it... why the T-100 lower column? Some sort of advantage to it? Does it work on a saginaw box (scout II), or did you just have one laying around? Did you use stock u-joints/rag-joints, or something else? Looks cool anyways.

Alz Toy · 05-08-07, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOOTENAY KRUZER

Nice looking truck. Way better shape than either of mine. Looking at the picture that shows your front driveshaft, it looks to be extended about the same as mine. When I picked up front end of my truck by the bumper the driveshaft almost came apart. I suggest you try it, you might be suprised. Flexing isn't a problem because when one wheel goes down the other goes up (relative to the frame) and the slipjoint doesn't move much. With a SR the axle moves forward when it moves away from the frame, so the front driveshaft usually has to lengthened. Try not to get any front end air until you check it out.

I hear what your saying on the d/shaft. Had the truck on a lift, with the front end hanging down I shook the d/shaft and it still felt tight. But I'll keep an eye on it. Al

Alz Toy · 05-08-07, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scouthead

Great lookin 40... reminds me of my buddy's high school ride. I'm gonna go kick his ass and make him get it out of storage.
How do you like the scout power steering? I think the 55 I'm building is gonna get it... why the T-100 lower column? Some sort of advantage to it? Does it work on a saginaw box (scout II), or did you just have one laying around? Did you use stock u-joints/rag-joints, or something else? Looks cool anyways.

Mainly 'cause it was only $10.00 from the boneyard, and about the right length. U joints from Kurt at Cruiser Outfitters, also has a bearing that goes in the steering colum to stabilize the shaft that comes thru the firewall. As far as the Scout box, I like it. Just wish it was a little faster at times, as its roughly a 4.25 turn lock to lock box. Al

Alz Toy · 05-08-07, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcruiser13

what ps pump bracket you got on there?

Home made. Having fun with a welder, some 1/4" plate, and the brain. Al

camcruiser13 · 05-08-07, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alz Toy

Home made. Having fun with a welder, some 1/4" plate, and the brain. Al

that what i was thinking, man i really dont wanna build one, but i guess ill stop being lazy and just do it,

thanks

05-06-07, 07:58 PM	#1
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	ROTW, Don't Laugh I guess its my turn, so here goes. FIRST of all, I want to thank " Team Mud ", reguardless if you were a question asker, or answer'er. I've learned a whole lot, and attempted/finished more on this truck because of Mudd than I ever thought. Enough of that, now on to my Cruiser. I bought my first Cruiser just out of HS, back in the mid 70's. It was a '67, with a 283, and Kayline soft top. I put a Saginaw p/s setup on it, and the mandatory ( at the time ) Armstrong Tru-Trac's. Had a couple more with the 6, stock '66 model, and a '74 that got modded, curtiosy of Downey Toyota. Fast forward about 20 years, and I get the fever agin. I found Mud thru Pirate, looking in the mini section for stuff of interest for my 4 Runner. I had a pretty good idea what I wanted, so watched the classifed's here, Pirate, and E-Bay. I wound up with a '77 model, that came with an Advanced Handeling kit SR, a lift of unknown mfg , 4 WDB, aux fuel tank in rear, full cage, Auburn LSD in the rear, good body and paint, and your typical rusty spots. I've had it roughly 2.5 yrs now, and have done a few " mods". First I flipped the brackets on the SR, along with the springs, added Scout p/s and drove it that way for awhile. Went to Flat Nasty, and discovered my suspension sucked, and wound up with a Smoky Mtn kit from TPI. Lots better. Rode in Mike Costello's truck at Flat Nasty, and thought " hey, these SM 420's are kind'a cool ". As luck would have it, my brother gave me one out of a '66 GMC, so that got the wheels in my head turning. Swapped my 4.11's for some 3.70's, added an Aussie in the rear, and moved the Auburn to the front. Redid the front with mini knuckles and arms, as it needed it anyways. So with the exception of the 420, and my spare case I'm rebuilding, here's some pic's for your viewing pleasure. Hey, if your up in the Northwest, and can shed some light on this trucks background, PM me Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member

05-06-07, 08:05 PM	#2
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	Engine 350 Chev, Comp 254 4x4 cam ( 210 @.050/ 218 @ .050 .447"/.462" 111 LC ), Edelbrock Performer EPS manifold, 600 Holley, and recent HEI upgrade Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member Last edited by Alz Toy; 05-06-07 at 08:43 PM.

05-06-07, 08:16 PM	#3
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	Suspension Smoky Mtn 2/4 kit for shackle reversal. Showing shackle angle mainly. Expect them to settle some in time. TPI's kit ( Belton Spring ) moves the rear some to center in the wheel well. Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member Last edited by Alz Toy; 05-08-07 at 04:38 PM.

05-06-07, 08:31 PM	#4
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	Interior Haven't done much with the inside. Put a CB in it, and pulled the heater 'cause it was leaking. Its on the list. Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member

05-06-07, 08:39 PM	#5
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	Future Project Here's something I'm fooling with off and on. With 3.70's in the diff's to cut hiway RPM, this will be my low gear option. Pic's for Scout box didn't go thru, something about bmp files. Well, there it is, you can laugh now . See 'ya, Al Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member

05-06-07, 08:58 PM	#6
camcruiser13 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,115	nice truck __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

05-06-07, 09:00 PM	#7
dirtywilks IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 75	Looks Great Man!!

05-06-07, 09:08 PM	#9
PScottBx IH8Mud4Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LA...the muddy LA...no movie stars here TLCA# 16251 Posts: 3,947	No laughing here... nice rig bud. ...and thanks for posting it. Good luck w/ your future projects and keep postin. Scott __________________ 1982 FJ45 Troop Carrier "Matilda" - - 1996 LX450 "80 in drag" *Bayou State Land Cruiser Association* - www.BSLCA.com - Good friends, a few cruisers, alot of laughs and a bunch of wives making this face --> "If I'm off (which is rare)... I'm in!"

05-06-07, 09:17 PM	#10
KY854RUN IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern Arizona TLCA# 3200 Posts: 343	Why would you worry about anyone laughing? That is a real nice rig. I would get laughed at because my 40 is in storage and has been for longer than I will say. __________________ Kevin `85 4Runner - work in progress M416 Trailer - ukn year, rebuilt July 2007, build thread `68 FJ40 - planning stages of a build Green Country Cruisers - member Wish List - to long to post

05-06-07, 11:20 PM	#11
rangerJ401973 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 45	Looks Great!! Now I need to catch up with you! Tim __________________ 1973 J40(money sponge ) SBC 350, 4spd, Warn hubs, 32 BFG a/t's, can't find the parts to put my top back on.

05-07-07, 06:39 AM	#12
1phrogguy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jacksonville NC TLCA# 17106 Posts: 642	Your rig is in great shape, mine is no rock crawler either. Looks great. __________________ SEMPER FI FJ40 http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...80#post2205080 FJ60 http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/183536-another-60-stays-fight.html under the but

05-07-07, 08:58 AM	#13
jhaha IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 269	Great truck! Good luck with the 420 __________________ 1974 fj40 frame off Aquala tub, 4 wheel disc brakes, 350, Q78's Soon to be SOA, TBI and 37's Landcruisers are Hardcore

05-07-07, 09:54 AM	#14
missipboy IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: tunica, ms Posts: 1,332	nice rig. __________________ m416 build http://forum.ih8mud.com/trailer-tech...6-buildup.html soa troopy-sold http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...oa-troopy.html hj45lv*t build http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...2At-build.html

05-07-07, 12:18 PM	#15
65CRUISER IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: PHX. AZ. TLCA# 6391 Posts: 94	Why laugh, that's a nice cruiser and it's a great color. __________________ '65 FJ40, 2F, H41 & 3spd TC, locker, york, tlca#6391

05-07-07, 03:12 PM	#16
Moe R IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CT Posts: 321	I like it! Nice rig!! __________________ In an insane society, the sane must appear insane. 84 BJ42 Turboglide Kit

05-07-07, 08:51 PM	#19
JRFJ4- IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: NORTH ALABAMA Posts: 658	Love it Great looking ride. Love the color. JR __________________ 76 FJ40 CHEVY 350/SM465/NP205 DANA 60/14 BOLT 5.13 gears 44" BOGGERS on 32 bolt beadlocks

05-07-07, 03:55 PM	#17
F-junker IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hagerstown MD TLCA# 16086 Posts: 1,446	I'm laughing because that thing looks like a beauty compared to mine!! Nice job on the rig of the week!! __________________ Serious case of MVS (multiple vehicle syndrome)

05-07-07, 04:31 PM	#18
Alz Toy IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 TLCA# 16471 Posts: 297	Scout Box Thanks Guys, makes me feel good . See if this works, steering box is out of a '77 Scout, steering shaft a '95 T-100 cut down to fit. Made my own relay rod ( 3/4 Toy,1/4 Jeep ) , and sleeved the tierod, as it was bent slightly, to beef it up.Thats about it right now. Thanks for the chance to share my truck with you Guy's ( and Gal's ). Al Attached Images __________________ '77 FJ40, 350/ SM 420 / 3spd t/case, TPI Smoky Mtn lift, 35's , Scout p/s, Tornado Alley Cruisers member

05-07-07, 09:34 PM	#20
KOOTENAY KRUZER IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nakusp, BC - in the west Kootenays TLCA# 17298 Posts: 385	Nice looking truck. Way better shape than either of mine. Looking at the picture that shows your front driveshaft, it looks to be extended about the same as mine. When I picked up front end of my truck by the bumper the driveshaft almost came apart. I suggest you try it, you might be suprised. Flexing isn't a problem because when one wheel goes down the other goes up (relative to the frame) and the slipjoint doesn't move much. With a SR the axle moves forward when it moves away from the frame, so the front driveshaft usually has to lengthened. Try not to get any front end air until you check it out. __________________ Wayne 1983 BJ42, SOA, Shackle Reversal, 4.11 diffs, locker in rear, Saginaw power steering, 33x12.5s. 4-wheel discs 1979 BJ40, 3"lift, 1982 BJ42 drivetrain, Saginaw ps, 32x10.5s, Warn 8274 winch 2001 Echo, stock

05-08-07, 12:00 AM	#21
camcruiser13 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,115	what ps pump bracket you got on there? __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

05-08-07, 02:29 AM	#22
scouthead IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: H.B. CA Posts: 372	Great lookin 40... reminds me of my buddy's high school ride. I'm gonna go kick his ass and make him get it out of storage. How do you like the scout power steering? I think the 55 I'm building is gonna get it... why the T-100 lower column? Some sort of advantage to it? Does it work on a saginaw box (scout II), or did you just have one laying around? Did you use stock u-joints/rag-joints, or something else? Looks cool anyways. __________________ I've chosen to ignore the pile of receipts...but I know it's growing...