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02-27-07, 07:49 PM
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Hi All:
Oh, that is right! Those darn newfangled 1979 and uo FJ40s with all the changes.
I was referring to the mid-chassis crossmember on 1978 and older FJ40s. I always associate that bracket that mounts on the underside of late model H42s as a transmission support, not as a frame crossmember. Also, I associate this part with FJ60s.
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Hey Alan-
The cross member that attaches to the underside of the transmission was not installed in a 40 series until 08/80, when they went to the 19 spline H41/42 transmission and split transfer case, different spring/shackle hangers, parking brake on the semi-float rear axle assemblies, among other things.
I have a later model cross member assembly that I am going to install in this truck and remove the mounts on the sides of the flywheel housing.
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03-03-07, 11:29 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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So I have been working on this a bit today...
I think that MILLHOUSE figured out what the large mystery piece from the oil pan was...
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03-03-07, 11:34 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Dropped number five rod bearing, just to see what might be going on inside there...looks pretty good. I will drop a couple more just to make sure there is no lower end drama cooking in here...
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03-03-07, 11:45 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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So the oil pan is down and the clutch has been removed. I have removed the flywheel bolts, and realized that the exhaust system was preventing the flywheel from dropping free. So after gas axing the offending pieces of exhaust tubing out of the way, the flywheel dropped free. It is good to know an exhaust guy.
I also removed the four bolts retaining the number four main cap so that I could remove the rear main seal by hand and inspect the number four main bearing.
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03-03-07, 11:47 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Removal of the rear main seal...
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03-03-07, 11:49 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Number four main cap and lower bearing half:
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03-04-07, 06:19 AM
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Steve,
These pics are gold! I love seeing pics of procedures I have not performed yet...
It always puzzles me when folks on the LCML bash MUD, but then need to link to a photo on some server.
Nice thread!
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03-04-07, 03:31 PM
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Speaking of the H55
Poser,
I'm so glad you are doing this write up. A few weeks ago I started an opinion poll about the H55 and got some great feedback from users.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...&highlight=H55
Generally the opinion was that it's great for a 55 or 60, but for a 40 most people thought the gains weren't worth the cost.
I'd love to hear your final thoughts (and the owners) after this project is all done.
As for me, the jury is still out, I want to see how much the rubber overdrive helps the highway speed before I make a final judgment.
Thanks again for the post and great pics!
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03-04-07, 10:19 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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So,
Sunday I was going to try and make some real progress on this...
Needed to modify the flywheel housing to work with the input bearing retainer of the H55...
Pictures show the input bearing retainer from the H55 and the areas where the flywheel housing need to be opened up. I marked those two spots with a pink paint pen, and then got after them with a 90 degree die grinder with a carbide tool. It made pretty quick work of the areas that needed to be removed.
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03-04-07, 10:21 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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The top picture shows the tool used to modify the flywheel housing...
The next picture shows the pilot bearing removal tool.
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03-04-07, 10:52 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Pilot bearing removal....
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03-04-07, 11:03 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Installing the rear main seal and number four main bearing cap:
The first picture shows why the flywheel housing cannot be removed from the engine block unless the flywheel is removed. The next picture is the OEM rear main seal and the last is the number four main bearing and cap.
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03-04-07, 11:05 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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I put a little oil on the sealing lip of the seal and got the left side of it over the crankshaft and then rotated the seal clockwise and pushing it into place at the same time.
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03-04-07, 11:06 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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After the seal was seated, the main bearing got a little shot of oil, the cap had a little sealer applied to the surface that meets the block as per the FSM and the main cap is installed and the four bolts are torqued to 76-94 foot pounds.
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03-04-07, 11:22 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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So after talking with Mark W for a bit about oil pump modification options and ramifications, I decided to open up the inlet and outlet of the aluminum casting just a little and to flip the oil pump gears over.
You can see the difference in the wear patterns on the oil pump gear teeth, between the teeth that have been in contact with the other gear in the pump and the teeth that have not. The ones in contact have horizontal lines on the teeth and the ones that have not been in contact have vertical lines on the teeth. The main oil pump gear is keyed to the shaft that is driven by the distributor so that one needs to be tapped off the shaft, flipped over and then the shaft tapped back into the gear.
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03-04-07, 11:24 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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More...
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03-04-07, 11:31 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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The outlet side of the lower oil pump housing before modification and after:
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03-04-07, 11:33 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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The inlet side of the lower oil pump housing before modification and after:
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03-04-07, 11:39 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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So you can see in this picture and probably in the previous ones that the aluminum pump housing face could use a little resurfacing.
The branch hand tapping tool has a nice ground smooth finish. I put a piece of 240 grit down on it and ran the lower pump housing around by hand on it in circles for a bit to try and clean that face up a bit.
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03-04-07, 11:42 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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I think that it turned out ok, so I put that housing back on the oil pump. I replaced the Jap Phillips head fasteners  with a quality hex fastener, put a little locktite on the thread and tightened them up.
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03-04-07, 11:48 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Time to put the flywheel and clutch up in there.
Fresh ground flywheel.
Top dead center (the line) and seven degrees before(the dot)
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03-04-07, 11:50 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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I marked top dead center (the line) and seven degrees before (the dot) with a white paint pen so that they would be easier to see later when working with a timing light.
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03-04-07, 11:54 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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I like using locktite on the flywheel retaining bolts. I put the flywheel onto the end of the crankshaft and threaded the bolts into the crank by hand.
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03-04-07, 11:57 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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The first picture shows bolts finger tight and the flywheel tapped down on the end of the crank. The second picture shows a pry bar that is used to prevent the engine from rotating while pulling up the flywheel retaining bolts to 58-79 foot pounds of torque. The third is the torque wrench.
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03-05-07, 12:06 AM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Now is where the night gets interesting.
I have removed and installed countless numbers of flywheels over the years, all using the same blue locktite, no matter if it was an F or 2F engine. While pulling the flywheel bolts up with the torque wrench, things just did not feel right, and something was up. I backed the torque wrench off to 60 foot pounds instead of the 75 I had it at, and yep, twisted a bolt off in the crank.
FUNTIME!
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03-05-07, 12:07 AM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Removed the other bolts, broke out the left handed cobalt bits, drilled the broken bolt with a small bit, and then changed to the next larger size, and that one caught the fastener and backed it up just a bit. I then tapped an extractor into the hole I had just drilled into the broken bolt and backed the broken fastener out of the end of the crankshaft.
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03-05-07, 12:10 AM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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These things only work on TV.
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03-05-07, 12:12 AM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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I do not ever remember using these bits for anything, and I had to hunt around for them a bit to find that kit, but I knew that I had purchased it a few years back.
It is better to be lucky than good.
I will have me a PILE of flywheel bolts on the way Monday....
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03-05-07, 07:44 AM
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looking good steve!!!! glad you are doing this now... I learned alot by reading your weekend work!!! Thanks!!
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03-05-07, 09:16 AM
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1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
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