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02-10-07, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
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Saginaw twisted spline?
Well...I guess this either happened on "Bends and Dents" at Gray Rock or in my yard when I broke the drag link on a unseen stump. 
As you can see below I "candy-caned" the splined output shaft on the Saginaw gear which begs the question...what do I do now? Do I have to have a new box drilled and tapped ( I have WTOR's ram assist) or can I just replace the output shaft?
BTW Poser, the H41/Orion is great! More to follow on that soon..
Fire away...
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1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
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02-10-07, 09:40 PM
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that is bad ass! first time i ever saw that.
I think you can just swap the shaft. Maybe get your next one cryo'd
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02-10-07, 09:40 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Todd-
I replaced my steering gear in '99 with a Cadilac/J20 steering gear when the used '71 Impala steering gear that I had been using since '91 did that.
I have since installed a ported steering gear from PSC for the hydraulic assist set up that I am using.
Glad that everything went smoothly with the H41/Orion.
Thank you!
-Steve
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02-11-07, 08:51 AM
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So...in other words...just replace the whole box...
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--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-11-07, 02:21 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Absolutely, that would be the best way to go.
If the pinion is twisted like that, what is the condition of everything else? Just get a quality steering gear ported and ready to go and swap it out.
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02-11-07, 09:50 PM
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Thanks bud!
Guess I'll be calling PSC this week.
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Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area
--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-11-07, 10:35 PM
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I saw a twisted sector ONCE, a couple of years ago at the Hammers.
Belonged to some guy from TX named Nolen.
He said it was "work hardened".
x2 on what Steve said. The force that 'created' that presumably is strong enough to damage any other part in the box of a smaller size [which is pretty much EVERYTHING!]
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02-28-07, 05:33 PM
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While getting ready to call PSC tomorrow and went out to count the input shaft splines and measure and found this... 
This maybe a stupid question, but is there supposed to be a flat spot on the splined shaft? If not, why the fawk is it there? If so than I have a 13/16 30 spline...does this make sense???
Todd
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Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area
--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-28-07, 05:36 PM
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Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
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Flat spot- Yes.
13/16"- 36 spline (If there were splines in the flat area, they would total 36)
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02-28-07, 05:45 PM
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Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area
--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-28-07, 05:54 PM
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I have seen quite a few barber poled output shafts in the last few years, usually after someone hit a full size truck in the front tire though.
Dave
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02-28-07, 06:03 PM
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There are a lot of similarities between an large pine stump and a full size truck...:shotts:
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Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area
--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-28-07, 06:08 PM
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You must have some heavy duty steering components. If somebody told me they had done that I would raise an eyebrow. You posted pics of it. Wow.
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02-28-07, 06:16 PM
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IH8MUD Reader
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not heavy enough 
Snapped the drag link like a twig, but guess it held out long enough twist the sector shaft...
Unlike some people, I'm perfectly willing to put my stupidity up for the world to see.
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Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area
--Todd
Chattanooga, TN
1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist.
1994 FZJ80 w/ 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 6" Slee, Metaltech bumper, Kaymar R bumper.
TLCA#: 4920
STLCA Vice President
Rescue Tellico Committee ( SFWDA)
And yep...I am White Trash
David: is drinking a Blue Coconut Bacardi slushee! Ardenne is too! --Fireman on FB 2/7/09
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02-28-07, 09:55 PM
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Find a new ptiman arm while you are at it, chances are it tweaked as well.
Dave
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"The time has come" the Walrus said," To talk of many things.."
In the Trees.... OH
80 fj40, 2.5 OME Dakaar springs, 33" bfgs. "Charlie Brown"
88 fj62 Bone stock, Daily Driver, Bone stock. "Moby"
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