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man your busting your a$$ on this, looks like its coming along, as well as the house. good work
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01-12-07, 08:32 AM
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well last night I put 2 coats of POR 15 Chassis Back on the top half of the frame axels, and stearing linkage. Got to get someone to come over this weekend and help me flip the frame over so I can do the bottom... I have to say I really dont like the finished product after the chassis black..... did not dry as nice as the POR 15 not as shinny and in some places did not lay down as smooth..
Has anyone painted their springs with POR 15? I got my new suspention and have a can of POR 15 (plus more Chasis Black) laying around so I thought I would put a few coats of that on the springs and other suspention components.. Just wondering if anyone has done this? I really dont want to take the leaf springs apart? would I be waisting my time since I dont want to do this?
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01-12-07, 08:34 AM
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Been working on the house too much latley... got the bath room done last weekend... man lots of work... going to start on the kitchen soon... about 1/2 done in there, just have to put new counter tops on, finish trim work, and some more painting... this is the last room I am doing this winter... save the basement for next year..
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01-12-07, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by apeterson
I have to say I really dont like the finished product after the chassis black..... did not dry as nice as the POR 15 not as shinny and in some places did not lay down as smooth..
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I told ya it wasn't as smooth
But it is a good solid layer
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Has anyone painted their springs with POR 15? I got my new suspention and have a can of POR 15 (plus more Chasis Black) laying around so I thought I would put a few coats of that on the springs and other suspention components.. Just wondering if anyone has done this? I really dont want to take the leaf springs apart? would I be waisting my time since I dont want to do this?
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Nothing wrong with coating them as is.
Not really gaining anything in taking them apart and coating, unless it really makes you feel better..
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01-12-07, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by apeterson
Has anyone painted their springs with POR 15? I got my new suspention and have a can of POR 15 (plus more Chasis Black) laying around so I thought I would put a few coats of that on the springs and other suspention components.. Just wondering if anyone has done this? I really dont want to take the leaf springs apart? would I be waisting my time since I dont want to do this?
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I've never painted leaf springs before, but the key is that they can travel and flex freely. The biggest thing that keeps this from happening is friction between the leafs. When they get older, they start to rust together and your suspension will get stiffer as the friction increases. If you do choose to take them apart and paint individually, I think it will help in the long run. Also, if you do this, when you put them back together, put a thin layer of axle grease in between each leaf. It will help with the flexing and smooth out the ride.
Looking good.
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01-12-07, 08:50 AM
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What new suspension did you get??
Several come with these plastic slices installed to fix the above mentioned problem.
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01-12-07, 08:54 AM
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What new suspension did you get??
Several come with these plastic slices installed to fix the above mentioned problem.
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Wow...didn't know that they were doing that these days. Wish that they had done it on my '56 F100 that I restored when I was in college. Those leaf springs are a pita to get off and clean up.
Fortunately, my fj40 is just a weekend use beast and I'm not too concerned about the smoothness of ride
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01-12-07, 09:00 AM
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I got the Pinnicle 4" suspention (I know what everyone is going to say.....  , but I just could not see spending more at this point) I have not looked at the springs close enough to know if they came that way.. been too cold outside I just put them in the garage... I will look tonight..
but I think I will just coat them and not take them apart.
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01-12-07, 09:12 AM
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I told ya it wasn't as smooth
But it is a good solid layer
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Yea that is the first thing I thought about this morning when I walked out to see the finished dryed product... I said "huh he was right!"
But I still think this was the right way to go... Just glad this is just a FJ40 and not some slick hot rod or somthing... that I wanted it to look perfect.
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01-12-07, 05:28 PM
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Hey looks good man. Definately coming along. So at this point do you allready have the alum tub?
Eli
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01-14-07, 06:01 PM
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Hey looks good man. Definately coming along. So at this point do you allready have the alum tub?
Eli
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no I have not bought it yet, and I dont think I will be able to get it until about June some time. I have the ins. video so I am going off that and seeing what others are doing.... please see my pics I am going to post soon regarding my cowl and tell me what you think.
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01-14-07, 06:10 PM
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Just wanted to show you all my fan I got from my dad to exchange the air in the shop... it works good.... I got this installed about 2 weeks ago and have been using it every day as I have been painting the frame and cowl as you will see.... (thanks again Dad!)
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01-14-07, 06:18 PM
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Ok so here is what I did this weekend.... got alot done... I had a buddy come over saturday morning and help me flip the frame, so I was able to get the rest of the Chassis Black put on the bottom... let it sit over night with the heat on high... ( it was cold as $hit here last few days) then my buddy came over at noon sunday and helped me move the frame outside. as I had to move it outside because I have to work on the cowl and I dont have enough space, so it will have to sit out there until I get the cowl to the body shop.
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01-14-07, 06:25 PM
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I also wanted to show you guys that I did put a coat of POR 15 on the springs and covered that in Chassis Black (did that on friday night, then CB on sat when I did the rest of the frame)... The springs do have the plastic pieces inbetween each spring... I did not take them apart and do each seperatly... I hope I am not dispointed I did not do that... I dont thing I will be.. well at least it will be better than if I did not do anything at all....
PS yea I hung that spring so you guys could get a good look at my Christina poster!
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01-14-07, 06:30 PM
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also threw a few coats on some other suspention parts and the mini steering box I got from Poser....
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01-14-07, 06:37 PM
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Now since the frame was outside I was able to start working on the cowl.. I want to get this thing all primed up and ready for paint... I have to bring it to the body shop to get paint on the engine bay and the dash and inside so when I get my engine back I can get it all installed and just have the ouside of this left to paint.. There are a few dents that need to be fixed. One one the outside and one ont the inside on the dash...
I have never never painted anything using a gun and real paint... so I have to admit I was very meak and moved very slowly because I did not know how it would go...  yea I was shaking in my boots...
A pic of my new gun and supplys before I got started..
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01-14-07, 06:42 PM
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So mixed up the Exp. Primer and put a few coats on.... I was very surprised now easy it went on and how niced it looked when I was done... I have to say I was very pleased....
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01-14-07, 06:46 PM
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next out about 3 coats of sandable primer ( I am sure it has a different name) on... it went on about as good as the other... I did get one small run when I was trying to get in a corner... nothing I can not fix when I am doing the minor body work I mentioned before...
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01-14-07, 06:55 PM
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ok so here are my questions.... I guess from the alum tub video that I have to grind these joints down to the weld and it should fit up to the cowl tight or with just a small amount of body work or seam sealer... any one know for sure?
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01-14-07, 06:58 PM
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My only other question now is, I know that one of these holes is where the antenna goes... what is the other hole for... does the antenna need two holes or is the other one for something else???
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01-14-07, 07:21 PM
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Hey looks good- Yea you have to grind down through thoe welds.. essentially you want it so that you can run your finger down the door jamb and not have it bump over stuff. Be carefull when grinding to not grind too much of the very outer area, beccause it has the welds that hold the side panel on. (once you start grinding and look at it youl probably see what I mean. Also, you might want to grind it down and then primer it like you did to the rest of the cowl..since the front is steel, you dont want to grind it down and leave it bare.
AARG I want to learn to paint so I can just do my own.....on that subject, what finish are you going for for your paint? Show quality...or trail or imbetween (who is doing it, you?) and also, im sure you have seen the lines on the alum tub from the inside welds that have to undergo a generous amount of body work to be smooth...are you doing that yoursself?
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01-14-07, 07:34 PM
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Hey... I am not doing the paint myself... I am having a guy that I know shoot the paint only... I guess I am going for the in between look... I would love to get show qualitly but I dont think that is what I want in the long run as I do want to use this thing and not worry too much...
I have not seen the inside welds do you have pics to show me.... how was the outside lines? is there body work to be done there? I have only really seen the pics you posted on your build and a few others that other people have posted..
Thanks again for your help!
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01-14-07, 08:07 PM
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yea its on the outside...from the fender well welds on the inside...very noticeable and raised ...I tried to put the arrows where the main wleds are...hope this helps
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01-14-07, 08:08 PM
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oops heres the pic
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01-14-07, 08:24 PM
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yea I see those.... no I did not know they were that bad... what did you do with yours... I am about the worlds worst body guy but I try my best and I have done worst than that... so guess I will be doing it myself... maybe??
Thanks again!!
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01-14-07, 09:38 PM
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all of the body work and paint is being done by someone else
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01-15-07, 06:19 PM
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do you have a hard top for yours.. how did it fit with the alum. tub?
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01-16-07, 10:42 AM
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Qood questiion...I have the hardtop, and plan to have it on all the time for security purposes (expensive camera equiptment-insurance doesnt cover unless I have a closed vehicle) I actually havent fit it to see. but I know that the aqualu tub does change how it sits compared to factory, If you go to their website it is easier to see than the grainy video, but instead of meeting the edge it actually hangs over. I will be trying to finish my project and find a painter to paint and do the body in a months time, so Ill let you know how the top fits as soon as I put it on (maybe in a few days).
When do you plan to put the tub on?
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01-16-07, 10:46 AM
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If things go as planned I want to get it in June some time... that will be my best case, I guess so you should have yours on by then. I have their video at home and can see that they can get it to fit on there, just dont know anyone who has put one on there for real... take lots of pics and let me know your thoughts...
thanks for your help!!
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01-16-07, 10:47 AM
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For sure...I also have tons of pics of the fitting and grinds etc for putting the tub on, so just let me know if you want any of those.
Eli
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