 |
11-08-06, 09:03 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Site Addict
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,210
|
Need help replacing cam plug
The plug in the picture at the 2 oclock position is leaking. Engine is out and on an engine stand. What is the best way to remove this plug? What should I replace it with? OEM or an aftermarket expanding type? Thanks in advance for your help.
__________________
Ron
1978 FJ40 - Restoration project with 58K miles
1994 FZJ80 129K miles Locked with 295 Terra Grapplers, OME heavies, ARB front bumper, Warn 9000
1994 FZJ80 with 43k miles. Tons of Parts for Sale Thread and pics here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/parting-out/316462-1994-43k-plus-3-other-80s-%40-pick-part.html
1984 FJ60 - Fairly Rustfree Texas Truck, Rebuilt Engine with 5K (For Sale)
1984 Harley FLTC
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 09:10 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
... Alive
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Greatland
Posts: 4,258
|
Just punch it out from the inside.
This is not a freeze plug. It is a very shallow, straight walled plug. Nothing deeper will work here. You may not be able to find it except via the dealer, SOr or other Cruiser (or at least F/2F/3F) oriented supplier
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 09:20 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Kansastitty
Posts: 7,310
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by toyman317
The plug in the picture at the 2 oclock position is leaking. Engine is out and on an engine stand. What is the best way to remove this plug? What should I replace it with? OEM or an aftermarket expanding type? Thanks in advance for your help.
|
Your garage looks just like mine!! Cool 
Except that you need to clean yours up like I did 
Ed
I had the machine shop do mine, so I am absolutely of no help here. But you already got advice from a Cruiser-made-man.
__________________
My Anger-Management Class really pisses me off
'66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser... LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser... LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers, WhiteKnuckle sliders 
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 09:23 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
Site Addict
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,064
|
That the oddball metric plug. A good machine shop should be able to source it.
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 09:39 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Marcos,TEXAS
Posts: 3,496
|
That oil galley plug looks suspicious... whats up with that?
__________________
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ ||__
|.......PBR BEER TRUCK.... ||""\_____\
|_____________________/||__|___|
|(@)(@)"""""""""""|(@)(@)*****|(@)
The Beer Truck, that ran over Bunny.....
(\__/)
(='.'=) 
(")_(")
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 09:41 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Kansastitty
Posts: 7,310
|
That is my old '74 F that I gave to IDave. He just posted it to clarify. That is also my nasty-assed garage in the background...... 
Ed
__________________
My Anger-Management Class really pisses me off
'66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser... LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser... LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers, WhiteKnuckle sliders
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 10:12 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Oh...Durka Durka Durka.
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: in the shop
Posts: 16,017
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Degnol
Your garage looks just like mine!! Cool
Except that you need to clean yours up like I did
Ed
I had the machine shop do mine, so I am absolutely of no help here. But you already got advice from a Cruiser-made-man. |
That is pretty damn funny Ed...
I thought that I had seen the oil smears on the cam plug and that shop vac before...
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
11-08-06, 11:06 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: McCall, ID
Posts: 6,673
|
Yeah that picture has gotten a LOT of milage.
Actually, perhaps I should have asked first, but the way I got that out (yes, the one in the picture!) was to drill a hole in it and work it out with a screwdriver.
__________________
9/70 FJ40
9/64 FJ45 (L) P-B
4/84 Toy 4x4 Mini PU
We do not see things as they are;
We see things as we are. --Talmud
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 03:47 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
|
Site Addict
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,210
|
Yes, I cobbed the pic because it was too convenient to do otherwise. My garage looks worse.
Mark. I don't plan to take the engine down so I need to get it out from the outside. I am concerned about drilling a hole in it because of the potential for shavings getting inside. Perhaps putting some grease on the bit will keep that from happening. Sounds like I need to get the new plug from Toyota. Is there any trick to putting it in? Should I put some kind of sealer around the new one?
Thanks guys for the quick responses.
__________________
Ron
1978 FJ40 - Restoration project with 58K miles
1994 FZJ80 129K miles Locked with 295 Terra Grapplers, OME heavies, ARB front bumper, Warn 9000
1994 FZJ80 with 43k miles. Tons of Parts for Sale Thread and pics here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/parting-out/316462-1994-43k-plus-3-other-80s-%40-pick-part.html
1984 FJ60 - Fairly Rustfree Texas Truck, Rebuilt Engine with 5K (For Sale)
1984 Harley FLTC
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 06:04 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,845
|
You could also just use a small sharp punch to make a small hole for a screw. That way no metal shavings inside.
Another trick to keep metal shavings outside is to magnetize the drill bit or use a small strong magnet right beside the bit as you drill.
If you are totally paranoid about it, use a vac as you drill with a magntized bit AND a magnet beside the hole! :-)
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 06:46 AM
|
#11 (permalink)
|
|
250+ Club
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In the Rat Hole
Posts: 677
|
I witnessed a wise old man remove a cam plug by poking a hole in the center with a ice pick, screwed a sheet metal screw into the hole, then when it contacted the cam the plug followed the threads of the screw outward. I dunno tho, may have been a fluke deal
__________________
'73 FJ40- F power plant-  " HI-Ho, Silver Away!" "puff "of blue smoke on start-up, "puff" of black smoke when I frog it, but I'm work'n on it!  (It's All About Love! )
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 09:30 AM
|
#12 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: McCall, ID
Posts: 6,673
|
You will see that if you get a few shavings in they will be easy to get back out once you get the cap off. I used a small, magnetized bit, then punched it bigger until I could rip my screwdriver in there. It wasn't easy to get out!
__________________
9/70 FJ40
9/64 FJ45 (L) P-B
4/84 Toy 4x4 Mini PU
We do not see things as they are;
We see things as we are. --Talmud
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 12:39 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
|
|
... Alive
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Greatland
Posts: 4,258
|
If the cam is in place, it will prevent any metal shaving from going anywhere. Once you have the plug out, just clean them out with air, vacuum, a brush or whatever.
Mark...
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 01:25 PM
|
#14 (permalink)
|
|
Site Addict
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,210
|
Any tricks on installing a new one? Use a sealant of some sort?
__________________
Ron
1978 FJ40 - Restoration project with 58K miles
1994 FZJ80 129K miles Locked with 295 Terra Grapplers, OME heavies, ARB front bumper, Warn 9000
1994 FZJ80 with 43k miles. Tons of Parts for Sale Thread and pics here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/parting-out/316462-1994-43k-plus-3-other-80s-%40-pick-part.html
1984 FJ60 - Fairly Rustfree Texas Truck, Rebuilt Engine with 5K (For Sale)
1984 Harley FLTC
|
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 03:48 PM
|
#15 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 6,506
|
I used JB weld, but it may be overkill.
|
|
|
|
11-09-06, 10:09 PM
|
#16 (permalink)
|
|
Forum Regular
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sparks, NV.
Posts: 154
|
IIRC, when rebuilding a Ford 360 block, my friend and engine master mech. instucted to hit one side of the plug to where the thing will sitting sideways in the hole. Then jank'er out with a pair of visegrips.
I believe we found a socket similar in size when installing.
__________________
76/4 FJ40 Rustic Green, Ford 302, C4 Auto, EDL 1406 Carb., 35" WC's, '76 2F going back in soon as 302 dies.
76/4 FJ40 Freeborn Red, 2F-087055
|
|
|
|
|
11-10-06, 02:53 AM
|
#17 (permalink)
|
|
... Alive
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Greatland
Posts: 4,258
|
I don't normally put anything on the plug. Just install it dry. A good silicon wouldn't hurt. Nor would JBweld. I'd chose silicon if I was going to use anythig.
There is not enough room with the cam or the cam bearing in place to punch this plug sideways. Works fine for freeze plugs, but not for cam plugs.
Mark...
|
|
|
|
|
11-10-06, 05:22 AM
|
#18 (permalink)
|
|
Site Addict
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,210
|
I would want to be very careful not to damage the sides of the hole. JB Weld might make it extremely difficult to replace the plug in the future however, how many years would that be. Is it possible to push the plug in too far and interfere with the cam? Mine seems in there pretty far as it is. At least 1/16 of an inch beyond the block maybe more. Excellent ideas on this task. Any others?
__________________
Ron
1978 FJ40 - Restoration project with 58K miles
1994 FZJ80 129K miles Locked with 295 Terra Grapplers, OME heavies, ARB front bumper, Warn 9000
1994 FZJ80 with 43k miles. Tons of Parts for Sale Thread and pics here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/parting-out/316462-1994-43k-plus-3-other-80s-%40-pick-part.html
1984 FJ60 - Fairly Rustfree Texas Truck, Rebuilt Engine with 5K (For Sale)
1984 Harley FLTC
|
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
toyman317
Poser
1969 Toyota Land Cruiser, FJ-40
