69 fj40 Building on a buget "I wish" - Page 2

williewest · 10-25-07, 04:35 PM

HA dude looks like you took pages from your UNCLE'S book. He must be a smart guy to show you how dto do that kind of work.

Jakes40 · 10-25-07, 04:53 PM

Ya I picked up a few things.

Jakes40 · 12-24-07, 04:38 PM

Its been a wile but its time to start the SOA here are a couple of pics for ya’ll. fabed up some axle trusses/shock mounts and some shacles too need to order some bushings after christmas

76FJ40 · 12-24-07, 08:18 PM

Chris,

Glad to see you finally got started on your 40. Burl's going to miss you in the passenger's seat.

Jakes40 · 12-27-07, 02:24 PM

its not done yet I might still be riding with him a little longer. every time I turn around I find something else to do to it and hve to talk my self out of it for the lack of time and money.

Jakes40 · 01-09-08, 09:07 PM

here is what I've been up to tore the front springs apart cleaned,painted ,and loooobed them up.
Got the front mocked up.

I've got 14deg angle on the diff pointing up toward the transfer case searched FAQ but could not find angles I'm not flipping my springs "do not like the flip look I now all the cool kids are doing it" maybe later but I've got to get this done!

Jakes40 · 01-12-08, 08:53 PM

Burned in my perches. Cut and turned my knuckles 4deg. I'll post up some pic's tomorrow. My jack took a bump on me yesterday will not stay up tried to tear it down to replace the seals and can’t get it apart.
My old man was right ya get what you pay for.

JJS · 01-13-08, 05:45 AM

Good to see you're still going at it.

island45 · 01-13-08, 09:34 AM

You continue to inspire me. I love your work and the photos. Maybe I'll bust out the wire feed and go to work on my fenders instead of just ordering new ones. Worst case, I'll wreck them practicing my welding skills and just have to get new anyways. Thanks.

Jakes40 · 01-13-08, 07:03 PM

Thanks for the positive comments that’s what keeps me moving forward.

Here’s some pics of my cut and tern I used a pipe cuter it turned out really good it cut slow enough that there was less of a chance to go to far. And I found a use for my coarse spline axles I used them as kind of a slide hammer in the knuckle holes to turn them.

The knuckles were at 5deg. But after fixing the shackle angle they are at 3deg I need to turn them more.

just noticed theres alot of waight on that grade 2 bolt

Jakes40 · 02-02-08, 09:41 PM

Here’s some progress I removed 1 side of the rear swing shackle mount and made a new one got to what till I get the 55 springs to mount the hanger but I'm cleaning the frame and painting it.

Think this will work to clear 44s

just kidding

I don't have anywhere to take and keep the body off at so this way I can clean and paint between the body and frame. Hope it gives me enoph room any higher I think it will get unstable.

kb3gun · 02-04-08, 05:48 PM

Great post. You're motivating me to keep welding on my sheet metal. Keep it up!

Jakes40 · 02-23-08, 04:45 PM

Went to the junk yard today and got a scout box and pump and mount for $100 the only one in the area. They closed early so I could not get the tie rod. I’m going back next weekend to get some brake parts. And the rest of the PS parts I need.

I’ll post some pics tomorrow.

addicted56 · 02-23-08, 05:09 PM

Great Job!,

You are doing some great work. A great testament to patience. One of the virtues I'm working on.

ARMY STRONG!!!

Strangelove · 02-24-08, 08:26 AM

I have a lot of respect for anybody that can a) legitimately say they "fab'd" something and b) can keep a long-term project going. Strong work.

SEMPER FI!

Coolerman · 02-24-08, 09:09 AM

Dang! I thought I did a lot of metal repair on my junk. It's looking really good man. I like your temporary 'body lift'?

Jakes40 · 02-24-08, 03:05 PM

Got the scout box mocked up in place; still need to make the inside frame plate.

I tried to leave enough room to change to a different pitman arm I have not decided between Wrangler, Camaro, or 1ton? The stock scout looks like its going to hit the spring at full stuff and I have no way to check. I think if I get a flatter arm will help.
Any suggestion or pic’s would be appreciated.

Took as little material off the shock tower as I had to but I think I’m going to run F-250 shock mounts anyway.

Jakes40 · 03-02-08, 08:04 PM

Got a steering shaft out of a 90 model Chevy van and got the steering mocked up.

Only to remember that I still have my 6” body lift in, making all the angles wrong.
Or I can leave it in!

I don’t think so.

I’ll get more pic’s of it and maybe a write up after the body is lowered back down.

Chris

Twisty · 03-02-08, 09:16 PM

Nice detailed pics and info on the buildup! Looking good!

mr_manny · 03-02-08, 11:05 PM

that Scout Arm seems pretty long...other then the profile, are they all the same length?

Jakes40 · 03-03-08, 12:28 PM

It is long 9" long I'm looking for a shorter one but can't find one that does not have a big drop and is around 7" long. Other scout box users have changed to Wageneer arms but I have not found one yet.

colangut · 03-04-08, 09:19 PM

Are the Racey brothers out in Winchester still playing with Cruisers?

Looks good man. Solid work.

I used to live in Winchester and rode mountain bikes out on the trails around there a lot. Nice place with access to lots of wilderness areas.

Keep up the momentum!

-Stumbaugh

Jakes40 · 03-12-08, 01:41 PM

I got the outside of my frame painted with Eastwood Rust Encapsulator. Cleaned the inside frame rails still have to figure out how I'm going to paint them. Then I can lower the body and finish the power steering; I can not find a Pitman arm that I need anywhere.

Chris

colangut · 03-12-08, 02:16 PM

I used the Rust Enapsulator on several frames, inside and out.

To clean the inside of the frame, get a small sqaure flue brush - see ebay. I got the last I bought for $12 bucks. Make a template of the inside of the frame and then cut down the brush with a pair of diagonal cutters until it fits. I used a lazer level to aim at where I should cut. It does not have to be exact and should be larger than the inside of the opening. Attach a fiberglass chimney rod to the one end and a rope to the other. Push in at the rear of the frame where the spring hanger is and at the same time, have someone pull a rope that has been threaded through the frame. Work back and forth.

I then used a foam brush made for cleaning baby bottles to paint the inside - worked perfectly. 99 cents at the dollar store, throw away when done.

-Stumbaugh

Jakes40 · 03-15-08, 10:30 AM

Stumbaugh
thanks I now What you are talting about did not think of that. and I think my dad has 1 or 2 around his house.

I do not know the Racey's. I have only lived here 6 years and I don't get out much.

Jakes40 · 03-15-08, 10:50 AM

Just picked up a new 40 off ebay Its got a lot of parts I need the tub is rusted bad from the coul back.

Jakes40 · 03-21-08, 06:46 PM

After 15 years I broke down and spent $50.00 on plugs, wires, points, cap and rotor. She popped right off. I didn’t replace the points or the cap and rotor (wrong points cap & rotor on order). She smokes a little more than I remember.

OOOOOOOooohhhhhh what a feeling; TOYOTA!

cubbg46 · 03-21-08, 07:39 PM

nice job jake hang in there it all come together

Jakes40 · 03-29-08, 10:41 PM

got my PS frame plate made and burned in

I'll grind it down and mount the box tomarrow. I think I'm going to use a f250 pitman arm 6" long 1"drop from what some peaple tell me and beefy as

10-25-07, 04:53 PM	#32
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Ya I picked up a few things. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

12-24-07, 04:38 PM	#33
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Its been a wile but its time to start the SOA here are a couple of pics for ya’ll. fabed up some axle trusses/shock mounts and some shacles too need to order some bushings after christmas __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-17-08 at 01:49 PM. Reason: biger pics/ lost pics

12-24-07, 08:18 PM	#34
76FJ40 Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NOVA TLCA# 8019 Posts: 1,260	Chris, Glad to see you finally got started on your 40. Burl's going to miss you in the passenger's seat. __________________ '76 FJ-40 with a Hula Girl on the dash for me and a '65 FJ-45 LPB for the wife. Life is good.

12-27-07, 02:24 PM	#35
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	its not done yet I might still be riding with him a little longer. every time I turn around I find something else to do to it and hve to talk my self out of it for the lack of time and money. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 12-27-07 at 02:46 PM.

01-09-08, 09:07 PM	#36
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	here is what I've been up to tore the front springs apart cleaned,painted ,and loooobed them up. Got the front mocked up. I've got 14deg angle on the diff pointing up toward the transfer case searched FAQ but could not find angles I'm not flipping my springs "do not like the flip look I now all the cool kids are doing it" maybe later but I've got to get this done! __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-29-08 at 10:33 PM. Reason: geting the right pics

10-25-07, 04:35 PM	#31
williewest IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: York,PA Posts: 26	HA dude looks like you took pages from your UNCLE'S book. He must be a smart guy to show you how dto do that kind of work.

01-12-08, 08:53 PM	#37
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Burned in my perches. Cut and turned my knuckles 4deg. I'll post up some pic's tomorrow. My jack took a bump on me yesterday will not stay up tried to tear it down to replace the seals and can’t get it apart. My old man was right ya get what you pay for. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

01-13-08, 05:45 AM	#38
JJS IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,053	Good to see you're still going at it. __________________ Toyota still builds real Cruisers. They sell them overseas.

01-13-08, 09:34 AM	#39
island45 'Pops' Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orcas Island in NW Washington State Posts: 492	You continue to inspire me. I love your work and the photos. Maybe I'll bust out the wire feed and go to work on my fenders instead of just ordering new ones. Worst case, I'll wreck them practicing my welding skills and just have to get new anyways. Thanks.

01-13-08, 07:03 PM	#40
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Thanks for the positive comments that’s what keeps me moving forward. Here’s some pics of my cut and tern I used a pipe cuter it turned out really good it cut slow enough that there was less of a chance to go to far. And I found a use for my coarse spline axles I used them as kind of a slide hammer in the knuckle holes to turn them. The knuckles were at 5deg. But after fixing the shackle angle they are at 3deg I need to turn them more. just noticed theres alot of waight on that grade 2 bolt __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-17-08 at 01:52 PM. Reason: lost pics

02-02-08, 09:41 PM	#41
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Here’s some progress I removed 1 side of the rear swing shackle mount and made a new one got to what till I get the 55 springs to mount the hanger but I'm cleaning the frame and painting it. Think this will work to clear 44s just kidding I don't have anywhere to take and keep the body off at so this way I can clean and paint between the body and frame. Hope it gives me enoph room any higher I think it will get unstable. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-17-08 at 01:54 PM. Reason: lost pics

02-04-08, 05:48 PM	#42
kb3gun IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Somerset, PA TLCA# 17295 Posts: 261	Great post. You're motivating me to keep welding on my sheet metal. Keep it up! __________________ Bill Somerset, PA USA 2007 FJ Cruiser 1966 FJ40 (Website Link:New Project) (on Mud: updated more often) Proud member of ALCA!

02-23-08, 04:45 PM	#43
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Scout PS time Went to the junk yard today and got a scout box and pump and mount for $100 the only one in the area. They closed early so I could not get the tie rod. I’m going back next weekend to get some brake parts. And the rest of the PS parts I need. I’ll post some pics tomorrow. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

02-23-08, 05:09 PM	#44
addicted56 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 295	Great Job!, You are doing some great work. A great testament to patience. One of the virtues I'm working on. ARMY STRONG!!! __________________ 1956 F-100 1968 Power Wagon 1972 FJ40 1992 4-Runner 1997 F-250 PSD 2006 VW Jetta TDI

02-24-08, 08:26 AM	#45
Strangelove IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington, PA Posts: 105	I have a lot of respect for anybody that can a) legitimately say they "fab'd" something and b) can keep a long-term project going. Strong work. SEMPER FI! __________________ 1970 Fj40. Mostly stock...for now.

03-02-08, 09:16 PM	#49
Twisty IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 275	Nice detailed pics and info on the buildup! Looking good! __________________ 1978 FJ40 4" Lift, 3F, F&R AirLockers Daily - 33 MTZ 15x10 ClassicLock Offroad - 35 TrXus MTs 15x10 ClassicII Buildup Thread Visit my Shed

03-21-08, 07:39 PM	#58
cubbg46 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: eastern wash the dry 1/2 Posts: 107	nice job jake hang in there it all come together __________________ 75 40. 2f dui-live-wire 38 weber,2.5 rancho susp,2.5 g schack 4 degree r.brown shims,, 33..bfgmt soon to come family cage metal tech. detriot rear. arb front.

02-24-08, 09:09 AM	#46
Coolerman IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lexington, KY TLCA# 13645 Posts: 2,922	Dang! I thought I did a lot of metal repair on my junk. It's looking really good man. I like your temporary 'body lift'? __________________ !Oy my 1971 FJ40 Not Road Legal http://tinyurl.com/47zpb (My Web Site) http://tinyurl.com/2h6hc7 (Nut and Bolt Spreadsheet)

02-24-08, 03:05 PM	#47
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Got the scout box mocked up in place; still need to make the inside frame plate. I tried to leave enough room to change to a different pitman arm I have not decided between Wrangler, Camaro, or 1ton? The stock scout looks like its going to hit the spring at full stuff and I have no way to check. I think if I get a flatter arm will help. Any suggestion or pic’s would be appreciated. Took as little material off the shock tower as I had to but I think I’m going to run F-250 shock mounts anyway. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-29-08 at 10:17 PM. Reason: missed some stuff

03-02-08, 08:04 PM	#48
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Got a steering shaft out of a 90 model Chevy van and got the steering mocked up. Only to remember that I still have my 6” body lift in, making all the angles wrong. Or I can leave it in! I don’t think so. I’ll get more pic’s of it and maybe a write up after the body is lowered back down. Chris __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 09-11-08 at 08:40 PM.

03-02-08, 11:05 PM	#50
mr_manny IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san pancho, ca TLCA# 14254 Posts: 1,362	that Scout Arm seems pretty long...other then the profile, are they all the same length? __________________ 1972 FJ40 2F, sm465, Detroit-R/Aussie-F, Longfield SS, SUA - Rear FJ55 lift-springs x4, Disc Brakes x4, 315/75R16 KM2, 92" WB Help the Honey Bees

03-03-08, 12:28 PM	#51
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	It is long 9" long I'm looking for a shorter one but can't find one that does not have a big drop and is around 7" long. Other scout box users have changed to Wageneer arms but I have not found one yet. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

03-04-08, 09:19 PM	#52
colangut IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Great Falls Virginia TLCA# 3521 Posts: 876	Are the Racey brothers out in Winchester still playing with Cruisers? Looks good man. Solid work. I used to live in Winchester and rode mountain bikes out on the trails around there a lot. Nice place with access to lots of wilderness areas. Keep up the momentum! -Stumbaugh

03-12-08, 01:41 PM	#53
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	I got the outside of my frame painted with Eastwood Rust Encapsulator. Cleaned the inside frame rails still have to figure out how I'm going to paint them. Then I can lower the body and finish the power steering; I can not find a Pitman arm that I need anywhere. Chris __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

03-12-08, 02:16 PM	#54
colangut IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Great Falls Virginia TLCA# 3521 Posts: 876	I used the Rust Enapsulator on several frames, inside and out. To clean the inside of the frame, get a small sqaure flue brush - see ebay. I got the last I bought for $12 bucks. Make a template of the inside of the frame and then cut down the brush with a pair of diagonal cutters until it fits. I used a lazer level to aim at where I should cut. It does not have to be exact and should be larger than the inside of the opening. Attach a fiberglass chimney rod to the one end and a rope to the other. Push in at the rear of the frame where the spring hanger is and at the same time, have someone pull a rope that has been threaded through the frame. Work back and forth. I then used a foam brush made for cleaning baby bottles to paint the inside - worked perfectly. 99 cents at the dollar store, throw away when done. -Stumbaugh

03-15-08, 10:30 AM	#55
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Stumbaugh thanks I now What you are talting about did not think of that. and I think my dad has 1 or 2 around his house. I do not know the Racey's. I have only lived here 6 years and I don't get out much. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

03-15-08, 10:50 AM	#56
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	Just picked up a new 40 off ebay Its got a lot of parts I need the tub is rusted bad from the coul back. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work! Last edited by Jakes40; 03-17-08 at 01:58 PM.

03-21-08, 06:46 PM	#57
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	blowin smoke After 15 years I broke down and spent $50.00 on plugs, wires, points, cap and rotor. She popped right off. I didn’t replace the points or the cap and rotor (wrong points cap & rotor on order). She smokes a little more than I remember. OOOOOOOooohhhhhh what a feeling; TOYOTA! __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

03-29-08, 10:41 PM	#59
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 264	got my PS frame plate made and burned in I'll grind it down and mount the box tomarrow. I think I'm going to use a f250 pitman arm 6" long 1"drop from what some peaple tell me and beefy as __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!