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07-10-06, 12:40 AM
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|  Is this an F or 2F?? Long story...
Okay, don't kill me for this question, but I'm a little confused at this point.
Here's a little background. I bought a '70 fj40 about 4 years ago. I assumed that it had an F motor, becaus it is a '70. (I had previously had a '77 a while before that and I remembered the engine looking different.) Over the years I have ran into a few situations where I found it hard to get correct parts. IE: I had to get a slave cylinder from a '75+, and I just discovered that it has a 4spd style clutch even though its a three speed tranny.
So I happened to run into a guy today that happens to have owned it two owners ago. He tells me that he put a 2F in when he did the original restore. 
So now I'm thinking it does have a 2F in it. Could someone help me ID this thing so I can finally sleep at night.
(PS - No making fun of the wiring, it doesn't have to look pretty to have fun in.  )
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(Sorry my FTP server is down, so no attachment.)
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07-10-06, 12:48 AM
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| The number is on the rear of the block behind the distributor. My guess judging by the oil filter location....it is a 2F. Might be the 74 oddball year though. http://www.sor.com/2fengine.html lots of good info in the tech pages | |
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07-10-06, 10:54 AM
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| It COULD be a 2F and guessing by the Valve Cover it looks like it. I wouldn't say that it's a 74 F motor cause it REALLY doesn't look like one, I have the 74. Good luck
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07-10-06, 11:14 AM
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07-10-06, 01:40 PM
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| I think that the side cover with the pcv valve in front is from a F....but the oil filter says 2F 
the engine ID number is the answer
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07-10-06, 02:07 PM
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| You have a 2F valve cover for sure, and the rest looks like my 1974 F engine. So, you have a 1974+ engine, the chances are extremely good that it is a genuine 2F engine.
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07-10-06, 03:29 PM
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| Definitely looks like a 2F to me.
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07-10-06, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by froggy I think that the side cover with the pcv valve in front is from a F....but the oil filter says 2F
the engine ID number is the answer |
Just like my '74 F and a half.
The engine ID will begin "F" or "2F"
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07-10-06, 04:18 PM
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| SWEET. Though I do feel like a dumbass.
I've been looking for a 2F to put in this thing for the past two years so I can turbo it and feel a little better about the whole thing, then use the "F" for my parts / future project rig ('68). When I get home I'm going to check out the codes to see for sure.
Thanks for the help!
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07-10-06, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Degnol Just like my '74 F and a half.
The engine ID will begin "F" or "2F" |
Just like mine too, especially with the 2F valve cover. Engine number will tell you for sure, though.
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07-10-06, 11:34 PM
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| Ok, just sanded down the ID plate and ...... drum role please..... 2F 260368.
So it is definitely a 2F but I'm having trouble getting the exact year figured out. Does anyone have any other resources?
Makes me pretty pumped though, this entire time I had the engine Iwanted.
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| F&1/2. That looks just like my 74 (minus the different valve cover)...the aircleaner and a few other things are pretty good clues...that Engine Number is gonna be what decides it for sure.
Edit: yoda-g3 posted before i could
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07-11-06, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by yoda-g3 Ok, just sanded down the ID plate and ...... drum role please..... 2F 260368.
So it is definitely a 2F but I'm having trouble getting the exact year figured out. Does anyone have any other resources?
Makes me pretty pumped though, this entire time I had the engine Iwanted. |
Looks like May of 1978 
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07-11-06, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Degnol Looks like May of 1978 |
Sweet. Thanks.
Kinda curious though, where did you find that? I've been searching all over the place.
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| are these numbers cast directly on the block itself I might be interested to see if that is really my origional motor and is in fact the F1.5 as was common for the year.
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07-15-06, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by yoda-g3 Sweet. Thanks.
Kinda curious though, where did you find that? I've been searching all over the place. | Didn't someone post that link for you in the first reply to this thread?  | |
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Originally Posted by treerootCO Didn't someone post that link for you in the first reply to this thread? |
But when you look at the table in that link it doesn't have the exact number I pulled (260368) and the May '78 box just has a dash in it. So I'm wondering where and how he got May '78.
Oh ya ....
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Originally Posted by yoda-g3 But when you look at the table in that link it doesn't have the exact number I pulled (260368) and the May '78 box just has a dash in it. So I'm wondering where and how he got May '78.
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Well.....I extrapolated and interpolated
There is a way to find out it's exact birthday that I added in another post.
The information came from Jim Chenoweth, I just passed it along. Determining Engine Build Year
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Originally Posted by Degnol Well.....I extrapolated and interpolated
There is a way to find out it's exact birthday that I added in another post.
The information came from Jim Chenoweth, I just passed it along. Determining Engine Build Year
Ed |
Sweet, thanks man. I just checked, but I can only make out the first three numbers, (header in the way) 804. So it looks like April of '78. Awesome.
Thanks!
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