View Single Post
Old 05-22-08, 07:17 PM   #18
flintknapper
IH8MUD Lifer
 
flintknapper's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Deep East Texas
Posts: 1,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoDoug View Post
Flint,

First off, I'm going to ignore those pictures because they scare the sh%t out of me. Dunno if you read of my double griz encounter (2 separate bears within 20 minutes) a couple years ago...


Quote:
Anyhow, the comments on the 12g slug are encouraging because I feel like if it indeed hits harder than a .44 then I know I can also use 3" magnum slugs which come out at 1760fps which would put it better than the 460. I could not find ballistics for the 2 3/4 I have, so I'm using your 1476fps
Quite a few guides in bear country like the shotgun/slug combination. A 12 ga. slug has a lot of frontal area (cross section) which means it will punch a big hole. Unfortunately, they don't have particularly good "Sectional Density" which means they won't penetrate as well as most rifle or pistol bullets, but they will definitely "light up" a bear with every hit.


Quote:
I'm guessing that if I had a custom sling made for my 12g, I could put more slugs on target faster with it than with a high powered pistol.
I agree.



Quote:
Or very close. I base this on having rapid fired my pump Mossburg from the hip many times over the years screwing around. Walking with my family, with the 12g hung in a way it could be brought up fast, I feel confident about that.
Depending upon age and experience, family members may be able to wield the shotgun too. Good to have everyone trained in what to do. Much harder to accomplish with a hard recoiling pistol.



Quote:
What do you think the 1760fps 1oz slug's ME would be?
Without looking it up, I would guess it would approach 3000 ft. lbs.

Quote:
Any thoughts on a sling for a short barreled (18") shotgun that satisfies the ease of walking and fast access goal?
There are lots of tactical items for shotguns (slings, barrel band sling mounts, sling mount for the stock, extended mag. tubes etc)


__________________
Flintknapper:

'97 Land Cruiser, Moonglow Pearl
Chocolate Lab (Kota), I miss you.
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ (come and take them)
flintknapper is offline   Reply With Quote