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Originally Posted by ShottsUZJ100
Bullshit!
The newer and advanced diesel trucks still SMELL
They cost MORE
They take LONGER for you to re-coop the price premium
They are noisier
They are slower compared to gas options
In the good ole USA you buy what you want. Enjoy your smelly POC diesel engines.
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Ah, now you're qualifying your answer! Those are American heavy-duty truck diesels. Try one of the European or Japanese makes, afterall that's what we're talking about. My point is, you can't make a blanket statement that ALL diesels stink or are more expensive or whatever based on some examples but not all. You'd think that would be self-evident...
Try driving a modern Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Volkswagon, or even Toyota diesel, then come talk to me. To your points:
Modern diesel engines smell no worse than modern gassers. Different smell, they all stink. Run bio if the engine is certified, and your tailpipe will smell like french fries. Makes you hungry all the time, but at least you won't die from carbon-monoxide poisoning like on a gasser.
They don't all cost more. In many cases they cost the same or less. For exmple, a Dodge Ram 2500 costs the exact same price whether you buy the 5.7L Hemi or the 6.7L Cummins. Of the eight models in the Mercedes E-Class lineup, only a whopping ONE costs less than the BLUETEC diesel model. And in terms of cost of fuel per mile, they are cheaper, despite the higher cost of the fuel itself at the pump. Think about fuel economy figures. If you need a mathematical example, please let me know, I'll try to put it in remedial math terms.
As I said, no price premium cost to recoup.
Noisier? Puhleeez. Like I said, go drive a BLUETEC and tell me it's any noisier than a gasser, from either inside or outside the car.
Slower? Hmmm, OK, here's one example: go look up the Audi R10. 230 mph top speed, 650 hp, 811 ft-lbs torque, undefeated at LeMans. And it's a diesel, oh my!
Ultimately, here's what it boils down to, for me. Making blanket statements,
generalizations, like this and passing them off as Holy Scripture is the problem I have. Most of the vets can filter the BS you fling, but you do the newbies a disservice because they come to a technical forum expecting fact, and you feed them crap. Don't make generalizations like this that you
CANNOT back up!
BTW, enjoy your inefficient, gutless POC gas engines!