i want to get a winch b/c now when i go i am very cautious and avoid the super soft stuff. I dont want to get an arb bumber b/c of the weight issues would love to add just a winch but i think to get a strong enough winch some thing has to be done upfront. here in the usa toyota does not offer a front winch package one thing i noticed is that those ladders also work as good shovels