[Rustydog]

Look at Fort Knox also.

I really wish I purchased the taller model because it filled up quickly. Over 1400 lbs empty, double steel walls with fire proofing between layers. Placed down stairs against concrete outside wall. I am 10 yards from fire hydrant in a suburban environment. Feel very confident that with fire rating and location in house the contents will be fine in any fire.

Do a lot of research and determine your needs, I kind of feel "safes" come in levels. Once you put a dial or electronic lock on a steel box they are being called safes. That is a load of crap.


Then you move to the companies that put a "heavy" door with a couple of locking rods attached to the handle on the same steel box, still a load of crap.


You can tell this when they are on the pallet or just empty, swing the door open and see what percentage of the total weight is the door. They will also tell you fire proffed by adding just a door seal and insulation in the door area.


You should also condsider the safes ability to withstand drilling, many of the "safes" do not have designs to prevent drilling of a lock rods on the door. Others place the inner walls near the locking rods at angles to the outer wall and rods, imagine going through a thick out wall of steel to hit a 14 or 16 guage steel line at a 45 degree angle and try to dril it. This may not be as important in the grab and go but would be for a more remote location.


Consider the need for reset and reinforced doors, this eliminates the ability to pry the door edges. The next step would be to ensure corner locking rods to prevent the ability to pry even further. Also consider the lock, electronic, tumbler, or even the style tumbler that you must align all the combination, then move back to zero and push the dial. This decreases the ability for a automated dialer to access the safe. Locksmiths and really good theives have these.


In the end you get what you pay for, just make sure you paid enough for what you need or you will regret the money you spent.


If you determine you safe was not good enough it is usually after the bad things have happend and you lost it all.