[motin]

Originally Posted by chimyz

Nice...don't worry about it though, that part of the bumper comes off with the installation of an ARB.

gd evening

i am worried i dont want the arb one is there anything any one did to make this one the original shorter

thanks

[1loudLX]

Originally Posted by dtt255

One of the things I learned first at the Dirty Toy School was this:

If you don't know the area you are going into, get out and look first

Nice scratch.....but next time just run into your garage like me and be a man!

especially so with water crossings...one brave soul right there.

[JBHorne]

Originally Posted by motin

gd evening

i am worried i dont want the arb one is there anything any one did to make this one the original shorter

thanks

No. The front bumper can not be cut shorter. There are other things in the way that you'd have to take care of, like the fog lights. You need to decide if you want the ARB or not because your spring choice will matter.

If you don't want it, you could always replace the bumper cover pretty easily. But frankly that would kinda be pointless as you've already managed to mangle one.

EDIT: And if the area on the bumper surrounding the headlamp is cracked or the tabs have been ripped out, you may need to replace it anyways from what I can see in this photo:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.p...1&d=1240122603

[motin]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

No. The front bumper can not be cut shorter. There are other things in the way that you'd have to take care of, like the fog lights. You need to decide if you want the ARB or not because your spring choice will matter.

If you don't want it, you could always replace the bumper cover pretty easily. But frankly that would kinda be pointless as you've already managed to mangle one.

EDIT: And if the area on the bumper surrounding the headlamp is cracked or the tabs have been ripped out, you may need to replace it anyways from what I can see in this photo:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.p...1&d=1240122603

thanks very much for the detail answer

tomorow mrng ill be installing the arb kit and then my installer promised to take a look at my bumper

i have to offers 1 to change it for new at around 1000 usd or about same price for the arb or fix it at about 250 usd

ill decide later

[1loudLX]

ARB it, so it wont happen again, and you'll just be out even more $.

[JBHorne]

Originally Posted by 1loudLX

ARB it, so it wont happen again, and you'll just be out even more $.

...just make sure you get the right springs. It sounds like he's buying a used kit from someone without an ARB.

[motin]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

...just make sure you get the right springs. It sounds like he's buying a used kit from someone without an ARB.

gd mrng

i tnks -

i am buying for an officall installer of arb in israel

this kit was used few days for a old guy who from the start said he wants to test them as 10 % of the time he is on the offroad and 90 % on the road but he was not happy on the test and gave them back.

ill update you today evening

[1loudLX]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

...just make sure you get the right springs. It sounds like he's buying a used kit from someone without an ARB.

I was speaking of ARBing the bumper...but yeah get as much ARB stuff you can afford!

[JBHorne]

Originally Posted by 1loudLX

I was speaking of ARBing the bumper...but yeah get as much ARB stuff you can afford!

Yes, I know you were speaking about the bumper. What I'm saying is that it sounds like he is buying the used suspension setup from someone else who DID NOT have the ARB bumper, thus the springs are 702's and not 703 springs. If he get's the bumper as well, these will be the incorrect springs and will need to be changed. Changing a spring costs the same labor as installing new ones, so why not do it correctly from the get-go and save $$$?

[dtt255]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

Yes, I know you were speaking about the bumper. What I'm saying is that it sounds like he is buying the used suspension setup from someone else who DID NOT have the ARB bumper, thus the springs are 702's and not 703 springs. If he get's the bumper as well, these will be the incorrect springs and will need to be changed. Changing a spring costs the same labor as installing new ones, so why not do it correctly from the get-go and save $$$?

X2..... good advice!

[1loudLX]

Originally Posted by JBHorne

Yes, I know you were speaking about the bumper. What I'm saying is that it sounds like he is buying the used suspension setup from someone else who DID NOT have the ARB bumper, thus the springs are 702's and not 703 springs. If he get's the bumper as well, these will be the incorrect springs and will need to be changed. Changing a spring costs the same labor as installing new ones, so why not do it correctly from the get-go and save $$$?

ah-ha! True story. Good call

[motin]

gd mrng evryone



just to update you that i have installed in my car the full kit of ome and i am super happy from the lift and from the ride i did not try the car yet off raod but in the road ilike the ride and i think the ride did not change much as i have the intern al winch in my original front bumper my installer told me that must have done the job so i hope i can tell you next week i am also happy off roading in the mean time trying to find a nice work shop who will fix my original front bumper front crash that i have done last tour with the original springs



thanks

[dtt255]

Originally Posted by motin

gd mrng evryone



just to update you that i have installed in my car the full kit of ome and i am super happy from the lift and from the ride i did not try the car yet off raod but in the road ilike the ride and i think the ride did not change much as i have the intern al winch in my original front bumper my installer told me that must have done the job so i hope i can tell you next week i am also happy off roading in the mean time trying to find a nice work shop who will fix my original front bumper front crash that i have done last tour with the original springs



thanks

You have a land cruiser car? Wow, I didn't know they made one.

You also don't want to post this in the thread showing off wheel damage.

[SupraTuRD]

Awesome to see the big boys with high dollar rigs using them for what they were designed for! Keep'm comin'!

[DieselFumes]

Originally Posted by BendFJ

I just waisted 5 minutes of my life reading all these posts, wanting to see some 200 series carnage. Not one photo. By the way, had a built FJ Cruiser, have a 100, want a built 80 but REALLY want to build a 200. I love my Tundra's 380 or more hp! Prices are really low on Certified 200's, so maybe soon!

Wasted 5 minutes myself!!! lol

Thought I might see pics of 200's with damage or wheelin, but guess not...

[DieselFumes]

Whoops- I missed page 2! way to go on wheelin them rigs! Lets see some action shots of them doing the damage!

[alaska60]

This is carnage??????
Pork roll sandwich anyone???

[Mark W]

I popped in hoping to see evidence that the guys with 200s might actually wheel them. Leaving more discouraged than I arrived. :(


Mark...

[alaska60]

I know what you mean Mark........I am always disappointed when I come to the 200 series mall cruisers thread...dont know why I keep checking it out....gyess I keep thinking they will actually wheel and work on these rigs.....
oh well..............
to be expected I guess.
BIG $ = big ?

[dtt255]

Originally Posted by alaska60

This is carnage??????
Pork roll sandwich anyone???

Originally Posted by Mark W

I popped in hoping to see evidence that the guys with 200s might actually wheel them. Leaving more discouraged than I arrived. :(


Mark...

Originally Posted by alaska60

I know what you mean Mark........I am always disappointed when I come to the 200 series mall cruisers thread...dont know why I keep checking it out....gyess I keep thinking they will actually wheel and work on these rigs.....
oh well..............
to be expected I guess.
BIG $ = big ?

Wow you guys are just the best! I don't know about you all but I don't go out and TRY and damage my 200 series. We probably have less damage pics because there are maybe, what....umm 10 owners! lol

Go out and damage your rigs on purpose. We prefer not to.

Wasting your time....good, then leave....ADIOS!

[bjowett]

The way of the world...

One owns a nice expensive truck.

Don't use it in a situation where potential sigificant body damage may occur and you tend to be a waste, you bought it for nothing, whimp.

Go and use it hardcore, flop it, dent it, all of a sudden you are rich prick who dosn't care, spoiled.

Of course this goes in the othe direction, too. Show up in a beater or on an ATV amongst certain groups and you are redneck hill billy.

Personally, I don't give a rat's ass. As I am wasting my time posting this. It's all good fun.

I'd love to take my Tundra on that Alaska Trek... but I know I won't have the time to get up there to Alaska next year.

[alaska60]

Originally Posted by dtt255

Wow you guys are just the best! I don't know about you all but I don't go out and TRY and damage my 200 series. We probably have less damage pics because there are maybe, what....umm 10 owners! lol

Go out and damage your rigs on purpose. We prefer not to.

Wasting your time....good, then leave....ADIOS!

The whole thing boils down to this thread! The thread said "post your wheeling damage" All I see is scratches on some paint?
The rigs you drive (200 series land cruisers) are meant to be wheeled. They are designed as an off road vehicle to be taken to the most extreme conditions.
Not the mall or your office...........
I certainly dont try to damage my 60 as I have a ton of money invested in my rig too. However, When I take it on the trail.............$hit happens unexpectedly when you take your rig where it was designed to go! That is where carnage happens!

All we are saying here is ........"what damage?" The thread steered away from the subject on post number 4 and so on.........no damage was reported until late in page 2...thats all. I would love to see a 200 series on the trail....I think they are the cats meow. In fact I wish I owned one to tow my 60 to moab.

Thanks for the update on only 10 people owning 200 series LC's

I really expected a larger number seeing as though I saw 5 at the mall, 6 at my sons soccer game and 4 at Tai-Pan trading co.

[dtt255]

Originally Posted by alaska60

The whole thing boils down to this thread! The thread said "post your wheeling damage" All I see is scratches on some paint?
The rigs you drive (200 series land cruisers) are meant to be wheeled. They are designed as an off road vehicle to be taken to the most extreme conditions.
Not the mall or your office...........
I certainly dont try to damage my 60 as I have a ton of money invested in my rig too. However, When I take it on the trail.............$hit happens unexpectedly when you take your rig where it was designed to go! That is where carnage happens!

All we are saying here is ........"what damage?" The thread steered away from the subject on post number 4 and so on.........no damage was reported until late in page 2...thats all. I would love to see a 200 series on the trail....I think they are the cats meow. In fact I wish I owned one to tow my 60 to moab.

Thanks for the update on only 10 people owning 200 series LC's

I really expected a larger number seeing as though I saw 5 at the mall, 6 at my sons soccer game and 4 at Tai-Pan trading co.

You are right.....when a rig gets on the trail, $hit happens. Maybe we are more cautious because of the price of ours....maybe we are just more cautious. Whatever the reason.

I am sorry the thread has 'steered' away from what you think it should be. My apologies. Seriously I am really sorry....can you tell?

Oh and I guess I should have made myself more clear....I meant 10 owners of 200 series on mud.....not in general, my 9 year old son could understand what I mean, I just assumed you could keep up also.

Have a great day!



Oh and...............

[1loudLX]

People ask me where my dents and scrapes are at from offroad. I reply "I try to keep them below the belt" otherwise known on my truck as, the rhinolining and bumpers. Topside I dont like scratches.

[alaska60]

Originally Posted by dtt255

You are right.....when a rig gets on the trail, $hit happens. Maybe we are more cautious because of the price of ours....maybe we are just more cautious. Whatever the reason.

I am sorry the thread has 'steered' away from what you think it should be. My apologies. Seriously I am really sorry....can you tell?

Oh and I guess I should have made myself more clear....I meant 10 owners of 200 series on mud.....not in general, my 9 year old son could understand what I mean, I just assumed you could keep up also.

Have a great day!



Oh and...............

Is this a pissing contest?...............................I'm sure I have more money and time than you! I can also and will take a road trip too. Your only 12 hours drive from me. I didn't insult your intelligence, your the one taking shots at judgement. And your sarcasm only leads me to believe that you are a short small balding man with a small penis that needs a good ol' a$$ woopin!
I hope I see you on the trail...............(highly doubt it though)

[mark71]

i don't wheel my 200 just for the sake of wheeling. i bought it to take me, my gear and when they can come, my family, into undeveloped areas of the pacific northwest. out here, we have a lot of logging roads and cat roads that take you into beautiful country where no one else without a good rig would dare to go. if i break something while doing that, i'll fix it (and, like a lot of people, will try to upgrade the broken item).

someday, if i ever own a '400' series and still have my 200 series, i would love to wheel the 200 for fun and really see how much this amazing vehicle can take. for now, it is my only 'escape' vehicle, and with having a family, lots of spare cash and time for repairs isn't realistic (especially after paying for this beast).

i respect the wheelers out there that have had an opportunity to really get a feel for the amazing capabilities of the land cruisers. i would hope that they would also understand that not everyone who doesn't wheel for fun alone (where things get really f'd up) is not a poser or a mall cruiser.

[1loudLX]

dont you talk about mall cruisers!

[Mtnbike]

Originally Posted by alaska60

Is this a pissing contest?...............................I'm sure I have more money and time than you! I can also and will take a road trip too. Your only 12 hours drive from me. I didn't insult your intelligence, your the one taking shots at judgement. And your sarcasm only leads me to believe that you are a short small balding man with a small penis that needs a good ol' a$$ woopin!
I hope I see you on the trail...............(highly doubt it though)

Sorry for posting text rather than pictures but this comment above is the funniest thing I read all day and for that "you are a patriot" as Bill O' Reily would say and the other guy is a "pin head".