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soggy60 · 10-27-06, 05:20 AM

OK, In response....

I posted message to infom OHV'rs in Florida that a user fee will be in our future; an awareness posting....

We have a state wide group: Florida 4 Wheel Drive Association. This group has bee working for years (over 5) with the FS group that manages the 3 NFs in Florida.

What we've seen: The trails that were worth the trouble to get to ( e.g., for me, it's a 5 hour drive to Ocala NF) are now closed. The majority of the open trails ( not all, but most) can be traveresed by a 2wd auto . . .
Will the user fee eventually lead to re-opening some of the closed areas ? We doubt it....

As for you folks in CA and Michigan, I'll plead a tad of ingnorance....
- but you may have to also ( unless you've lived here....)

I see that CA has one or more publically funded (State?) OHV areas...dare I say a 'park'.
Florida Does Not !
I also 'sense', from reading forums, there's places where you could (maybe not 'legally') make a turn off the pavement and follow a trail....
There's a few down here, but typically lead to a moutain of trash (sofa's, car hulks, etc) and it's on private property anyway, access was throught a flattened fence....

Attempts at a 'private' OHV park have not worked yet - regulatory overburden, or land converted to a neighborhood.

I know little about Michigan-never been there....are there lots of places to go trail riding ?
I live in southeast Fla. I can drive 2 hours south (~120 miles) and never leave massive jammed civilization - the three counties I traverse contain over 6 million people. How many people do ya have in your whole state ?
I'm well over 50 yr old. Where I learned stick-shift & some off roading is now a community of over 1,250,000 people (Orlando) .
Where I taught my kids to drive/4 wheel is now schools, shopping centers, and a city of over 300,000 (Royal Palm Beach)

If it's not a neighborhood or city, it's chain-linked or protected wetlands.

We need to protect what little 'dirt roads' remain in Fla. , let alone fight for access to sand pits, clay sinks, etc

As for " but6 it can, maybe has, happened to you" : but6 is a typo.....

It was meant for those that may have been following what's happening in Fla: Trails closing and Fees comming....

Pete Bailey

10-27-06, 05:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
soggy60 250+ Club Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 800	OK, In response.... I posted message to infom OHV'rs in Florida that a user fee will be in our future; an awareness posting.... We have a state wide group: Florida 4 Wheel Drive Association. This group has bee working for years (over 5) with the FS group that manages the 3 NFs in Florida. What we've seen: The trails that were worth the trouble to get to ( e.g., for me, it's a 5 hour drive to Ocala NF) are now closed. The majority of the open trails ( not all, but most) can be traveresed by a 2wd auto . . . Will the user fee eventually lead to re-opening some of the closed areas ? We doubt it.... As for you folks in CA and Michigan, I'll plead a tad of ingnorance.... - but you may have to also ( unless you've lived here....) I see that CA has one or more publically funded (State?) OHV areas...dare I say a 'park'. Florida Does Not ! I also 'sense', from reading forums, there's places where you could (maybe not 'legally') make a turn off the pavement and follow a trail.... There's a few down here, but typically lead to a moutain of trash (sofa's, car hulks, etc) and it's on private property anyway, access was throught a flattened fence.... Attempts at a 'private' OHV park have not worked yet - regulatory overburden, or land converted to a neighborhood. I know little about Michigan-never been there....are there lots of places to go trail riding ? I live in southeast Fla. I can drive 2 hours south (~120 miles) and never leave massive jammed civilization - the three counties I traverse contain over 6 million people. How many people do ya have in your whole state ? I'm well over 50 yr old. Where I learned stick-shift & some off roading is now a community of over 1,250,000 people (Orlando) . Where I taught my kids to drive/4 wheel is now schools, shopping centers, and a city of over 300,000 (Royal Palm Beach) If it's not a neighborhood or city, it's chain-linked or protected wetlands. We need to protect what little 'dirt roads' remain in Fla. , let alone fight for access to sand pits, clay sinks, etc As for " but6 it can, maybe has, happened to you" : but6 is a typo..... It was meant for those that may have been following what's happening in Fla: Trails closing and Fees comming.... Pete Bailey __________________ Nov 85 FJ60 94 FZJ80