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Originally Posted by k_os
All this talk about the FJCruiser didn't do the whole rubicon. They took them through everything except little sluice or something like that. My source? Chris from the Trail Team he's fullnelson on here ask him yourself.
Also nowadays in this capitalism driven world. Where there aint not outbacks to be driven on 24/7( here in the US atleast). No serious need for a extremely tough vehicle (thanks to good roads that go pretty much anywhere). An FJ40 type vehicle will be a failure in today's market. You can see that through the evolution from the 60 to 80 to 100 series.
The FJC is capable of more than 99% of buyers will ever take it through. If you say it's not capable. Well Upstate cruiser's last run to tellico took 5 FJcruisers through tellico ( trails 4, 5 & 6) 2 of them with street tires in the rain. One of them had a 3" lift and, mine was completely bone stock street tires and no lift. Just rockrails., and no it didn't suffer any body damage at all. The other 3 were Dan's sister FJC and the 2 from the FJC trail team. Like robbie said it just takes a little finesse, a little patience and, a little rock stacking.
I also talked to chris from FJCTT about SFA for the FJC. He said he'd rather have the IFS because sometimes they can slide through stuff( becuase of the skid plates) whereas a front Diff would just get stuck or banged up against something.
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Are you saying the Jeep TJ is a failure in today's market? I'm sure they sell a bunch of them. I have no doubt that it will out sell the fj cruiser easily. If I wanted a mild to moderate trail ready rig, I'd buy a Rubicon over an fj cruiser any day... I have no doubt that it would handle majority of the trails out there.
As much as I like Toyota, the fj cruiser does not appeal to me for looks or functionality. I know for a fact, that I will not be buying one since it does not suit my needs.
Nobody said the fj cruiser did not do the Rubicon.... Just disputing the fact that it did not do little sluice. Also, they were very slow and stacked lots of rocks.
Tellico has some very easy trails. How do you think it would do on lower and upper #2, guardrail, school bus, and helicopter pad?
IFS has its place. I perfer the durability of a solid front axle.
My opinions are based on my 2 trips to Tellico and 1 trip to Rubicon.