Factory roof rack removal

dieselbigot · 08-02-05, 07:40 PM

guys,

I did a search on this but didn't come up w/ much. I bought some aluminium load bars from Slee and I need to get my factory roof rack off. I've seen pics of Derek Lee's Outback rack on his 100 but his is an 04. Mines a 99 and I tried to pry off the plastic/rubber boots that wrap the 6 mounting pads and correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like you basically have to destroy the plastic boots to get at the bolts. I tried prying them off and they are on there good...they don't just pop off like they look like they should. Am I missing something here? Anyone else take the factory rack off thier 99? (don't know if 2000+ were diferent

)

Augie · 08-02-05, 08:06 PM

Wiggle it left and right while lifting it up and it would pop up. Its basically held in place by 2 pins parrarel to the bolts. That would only work for the front and rear mounting feet. The middle one would be accesible once you slide the main bar off slightly (to the front of the truck if I remember correctly) and lift it up. You would need "Tork" style socket to remove the bolt.

mobi-arc · 08-02-05, 09:39 PM

Don't pry where the rack meets the roof...that was my mistake. The cover pops off easily. I'll e-mail you a pic if you e-mail me.

scott@perfectswitch.com

dieselbigot · 08-02-05, 10:16 PM

Augie

I wiggled, I poked, I pryed....I am missing the boat here. It looks like that rubber boot just curls up but has no way to pop off.

Mobi-arc

sent you an email...if you got pics I'd appreciate it

I think if I figure this out I'll have to post a write-up with photo's. This roof rack removal might be more difficult than changing the T-belt!

hoser · 08-02-05, 11:15 PM

Diesel, PM me your email address and I'll send you the TSB for removing your rack.

Greenland Landcruiser · 08-03-05, 06:22 AM

How much for your factory roofrack?
$$$
Can you mail me pictures of your factory roofrack?
lbp @ ral.gl

100 TD · 08-03-05, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

Diesel, PM me your email address and I'll send you the TSB for removing your rack.

Then put the TSB in the FAQ section

hoser · 08-03-05, 10:01 AM

1. Roof Rack Installers need to be certain that the two Roof Rack Cross Bars are installed as shown in the illustration. If the Cross Bars are installed any other way, Wind Noise complaints are likely to result.
a. Before any vehicle is delivered with a Roof Rack already installed, it should be checked to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed.
b. If a customer complains of a Wind Noise coming from the top of his vehicle, check to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed.
2. If the Cross Bars are not installed as shown in the illustration, the Roof Rack must be removed, the Cross Bars re-orientated, and the Rack reinstalled. Please use the procedures in this bulletin for removal and installation.

dieselbigot · 08-03-05, 10:02 AM

hoser:

sent you a PM...thx

Greenland

I'm going to keep the factory rack incase I ever decide to go back to stock

hoser · 08-03-05, 10:03 AM

1. Remove the four corner Support Covers by grasping with two hands and lifting vertically. You may have to give them a tug, but the Covers will come off. Your hands need to be clean to get a good grip on the Covers. Do not use tools to try to pry the Covers off as the finish may be damaged.
2. Each of the four Corner Supports is bolted to the roof with two bolts each. These can be removed with a T30 Torx bit. Remove all eight bolts.
3. Slide each Side Rail forward approximately 6 - 10 mm to release them from the Center Supports. Remove the Rack Assembly and place it upside down on a work table protected with clean shop rags.
4. Using a T15 Torx bit, remove the Screws that hold the Rear Supports to the Side Rails. After the Rear Supports are removed, the Cross Bars may be removed and turned around as shown in this sketch.

dieselbigot · 08-03-05, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

1. Roof Rack Installers need to be certain that the two Roof Rack Cross Bars are installed as shown in the illustration. If the Cross Bars are installed any other way, Wind Noise complaints are likely to result.
a. Before any vehicle is delivered with a Roof Rack already installed, it should be checked to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed.
b. If a customer complains of a Wind Noise coming from the top of his vehicle, check to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed.
2. If the Cross Bars are not installed as shown in the illustration, the Roof Rack must be removed, the Cross Bars re-orientated, and the Rack reinstalled. Please use the procedures in this bulletin for removal and installation.

Are there any better instructions than that for removal...this is clear as mud

dieselbigot · 08-03-05, 10:07 AM

sorry hoser...I sent the last 2 posts as you were posting the instuctions...thx for the info, perfect

hoser · 08-03-05, 10:08 AM

D. Precautions
1. Use 3M Ultra Pro body sealer on the ends of the eight (T30) Support Bolts and make sure the white rubber sealing sleeves are in place.
Torque (T30): 65 inch pounds (7.3 Nm)

2. Make certain the Screws holding the Rear Supports to the Rails are snug and the bottom surfaces of the Rails and Supports are flush with one another.
3. When reinstalling the Support Covers, make sure they are fully seated by giving each a light blow with a closed fist. The top surface of each Cover should be flush with the surface of each Side Rail.

Roof Rack - Wind Noise (Low Level Howl)
NVH
NV005-98
July 3, 1998

Title:
ROOF RACK WIND NOISE
Models:
'98 LX 470
Introduction

Field complaints of a wind noise, described as a low level "howl" starting at approximately 25 m.p.h., have been traced to improper installation of the Cross Bars. When the Cross Bars are removed and properly reinstalled, the noise goes away.

Affected Vehicles

^ 1998 Model Year LX 470

hoser · 08-03-05, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbigot

sorry hoser...I sent the last 2 posts as you were posting the instuctions...thx for the info, perfect

Diesel, you ruined a perfectly good FAQ with your interuptions.

Glad to be of help.

dieselbigot · 08-03-05, 10:13 AM

how do we get this posted to the FAQ? I'll bet I'm not the first guy to struggle with this...

dieselbigot · 08-03-05, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

Diesel, you ruined a perfectly good FAQ with your interuptions.

Glad to be of help.

I'll just shut up and stop posting now

Greg B · 08-03-05, 01:01 PM

What happens with the holes in the roof after you take off the rack? Do the original bolts go back in to fill the holes or are there covers or spacers that have to be purchased separately? I have wanted to do this since I bought the Cruiser. I want to remove the rear spoiler over the back window too.

mscott · 08-03-05, 06:11 PM

Can someone comment on how feasible it is to remove the rack for painting?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my rack, but I have been wanting to take it off to paint it a glossy black (or even body color if cost is reasonable) rather than the regular mat black it is currently. I understand this is extremely anal, but is removal/re-install a big project for something as dumb as this??

Greg B · 08-04-05, 07:55 AM

I went home last night and dis-assembled one of the corners of the rack. I followed the directions posted above and it was a snap. It would be very easy to remove the rack to have it painted. Once you pull the covers off, there are two bolts holding each corner down. They take a t30 Torx bit to remove the bolts. Once removed, there is a gap in the black plastic strip that covers the track where the rack mounts. Two things need to happen. 1. new shorter bolts need to be put back in to fill the two holes in the roof. 2. a cover needs to go over the section of track that is cut out for the rack. On mine, about halfway down that strip there is a cover for the center section. I'm wondering if those covers can be ordered separately or not. Any of you Parts guys got any info on the covers for those tracks? I can take pics tonight if my description is not adequate.

dieselbigot · 08-04-05, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscott

Can someone comment on how feasible it is to remove the rack for painting?

I think you'll have a hard time getting paint to adhere properly and if you ever use the rack, the chances of paint flaking or chipping off will be pretty good. Plus youde have to disassemble the whole thing unless you don't mind paint over the seems (which would look pretty ghetto)...I know I sure wouldnt bother...but to each his own

hoser · 08-04-05, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscott

Can someone comment on how feasible it is to remove the rack for painting?

If you want to paint it, go ahead. Many of the LX470 racks come painted from the factory. I would definitely leave the crossbars black though since that is where your mounts go.

Landpimp · 08-04-05, 11:07 AM

I agree, the LX racks are painted

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

If you want to paint it, go ahead. Many of the LX470 racks come painted from the factory. I would definitely leave the crossbars black though since that is where your mounts go.

mscott · 08-04-05, 01:20 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I'll let you know the results if I get time to remove and paint. It looks OK now, just not sweet how I like it...

Greg B · 08-05-05, 08:11 AM

Last night I removed the rack completely. It took about 10 minutes (very easy). I went to the local hardware store this morning and bought some 8mm x 1.25 bolts that were 12 mm long to fill the holes. The only thing left is the covers needed to fill the holes in the black plastic trim. Halfway down the trim strip is a spot for a middle support bracket. I took a pic of this section so that you could see what is needed to fill in the missing trim. I'm going to contact CDan to see if he can get me 4 more covers. I really like the clean look of the 100 without the rack and spoiler. I'll attach pics in just a minute.

Greg B · 08-05-05, 08:21 AM

Here are the pics; sorry about the driveway shots. The first two pics are of the middle area that is not used for the rack, but has the cover and bolts available. I'm thinking maybe there are two types of racks and one has three mounting spots instead of just two like mine. The third pic is of the front passenger side mounting area after the rack is removed. The last two are just pics of what the 100 looks like without the rack, rear spoiler, and running boards. If you ever wondered what your 100 would look like with these items removed, now you know! Cheers

Greg B · 08-05-05, 08:22 AM

Last two pics:

Greg B · 08-10-05, 01:56 PM

Good news! I just heard back from CDan, the plastic covers can be ordered separately and are $5.94 each and it takes 4 of them. I will post another pic once they are installed.

Landpimp · 08-27-05, 07:10 PM

FWIW, my 2000 rack was mounted/bolted in 3 spots on each side.

08-02-05, 07:40 PM	#1
dieselbigot IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 699	Factory roof rack removal guys, I did a search on this but didn't come up w/ much. I bought some aluminium load bars from Slee and I need to get my factory roof rack off. I've seen pics of Derek Lee's Outback rack on his 100 but his is an 04. Mines a 99 and I tried to pry off the plastic/rubber boots that wrap the 6 mounting pads and correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like you basically have to destroy the plastic boots to get at the bolts. I tried prying them off and they are on there good...they don't just pop off like they look like they should. Am I missing something here? Anyone else take the factory rack off thier 99? (don't know if 2000+ were diferent ) __________________ ------------------ 88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore 99 UZJ100 softcore 03 VW TDI dd 92 M101 cdn

08-02-05, 09:39 PM	#3
mobi-arc IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 671	Don't pry where the rack meets the roof...that was my mistake. The cover pops off easily. I'll e-mail you a pic if you e-mail me. scott@perfectswitch.com __________________ '98 Land Cruiser, MOBI-ARC Underhood Welder Equipped, POWER-GATE Dual Battery Isolator, Slee Dual Battery Tray, Long Ranger 180L Aux. Fuel Tank, TJM Nudge-bar, dual Hella HID's, BFG AT 295/75/R16's www.perfectswitch.com

08-02-05, 10:16 PM	#4
dieselbigot IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 699	Augie I wiggled, I poked, I pryed....I am missing the boat here. It looks like that rubber boot just curls up but has no way to pop off. Mobi-arc sent you an email...if you got pics I'd appreciate it I think if I figure this out I'll have to post a write-up with photo's. This roof rack removal might be more difficult than changing the T-belt! __________________ ------------------ 88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore 99 UZJ100 softcore 03 VW TDI dd 92 M101 cdn

08-02-05, 11:15 PM	#5
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,805	Diesel, PM me your email address and I'll send you the TSB for removing your rack. __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

08-03-05, 10:01 AM	#8
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,805	A. Roof rack installation 1. Roof Rack Installers need to be certain that the two Roof Rack Cross Bars are installed as shown in the illustration. If the Cross Bars are installed any other way, Wind Noise complaints are likely to result. a. Before any vehicle is delivered with a Roof Rack already installed, it should be checked to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed. b. If a customer complains of a Wind Noise coming from the top of his vehicle, check to make certain the Cross Bars are properly installed. 2. If the Cross Bars are not installed as shown in the illustration, the Roof Rack must be removed, the Cross Bars re-orientated, and the Rack reinstalled. Please use the procedures in this bulletin for removal and installation. Attached Images __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

08-02-05, 08:06 PM	#2
Augie IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 489	Wiggle it left and right while lifting it up and it would pop up. Its basically held in place by 2 pins parrarel to the bolts. That would only work for the front and rear mounting feet. The middle one would be accesible once you slide the main bar off slightly (to the front of the truck if I remember correctly) and lift it up. You would need "Tork" style socket to remove the bolt.

08-03-05, 06:22 AM	#6
Greenland Landcruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nuuk, Greenland Posts: 24	How much for your factory roofrack? $$$ Can you mail me pictures of your factory roofrack? lbp @ ral.gl

08-03-05, 10:02 AM	#9
dieselbigot IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 699	hoser: sent you a PM...thx Greenland I'm going to keep the factory rack incase I ever decide to go back to stock __________________ ------------------ 88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore 99 UZJ100 softcore 03 VW TDI dd 92 M101 cdn

08-03-05, 10:03 AM	#10
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,805	B. Removal 1. Remove the four corner Support Covers by grasping with two hands and lifting vertically. You may have to give them a tug, but the Covers will come off. Your hands need to be clean to get a good grip on the Covers. Do not use tools to try to pry the Covers off as the finish may be damaged. 2. Each of the four Corner Supports is bolted to the roof with two bolts each. These can be removed with a T30 Torx bit. Remove all eight bolts. 3. Slide each Side Rail forward approximately 6 - 10 mm to release them from the Center Supports. Remove the Rack Assembly and place it upside down on a work table protected with clean shop rags. 4. Using a T15 Torx bit, remove the Screws that hold the Rear Supports to the Side Rails. After the Rear Supports are removed, the Cross Bars may be removed and turned around as shown in this sketch. Attached Images __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

08-03-05, 10:07 AM	#12
dieselbigot IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 699	sorry hoser...I sent the last 2 posts as you were posting the instuctions...thx for the info, perfect __________________ ------------------ 88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore 99 UZJ100 softcore 03 VW TDI dd 92 M101 cdn

08-03-05, 10:08 AM	#13
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,805	D. Precautions 1. Use 3M Ultra Pro body sealer on the ends of the eight (T30) Support Bolts and make sure the white rubber sealing sleeves are in place. Torque (T30): 65 inch pounds (7.3 Nm) 2. Make certain the Screws holding the Rear Supports to the Rails are snug and the bottom surfaces of the Rails and Supports are flush with one another. 3. When reinstalling the Support Covers, make sure they are fully seated by giving each a light blow with a closed fist. The top surface of each Cover should be flush with the surface of each Side Rail. Roof Rack - Wind Noise (Low Level Howl) NVH NV005-98 July 3, 1998 Title: ROOF RACK WIND NOISE Models: '98 LX 470 Introduction Field complaints of a wind noise, described as a low level "howl" starting at approximately 25 m.p.h., have been traced to improper installation of the Cross Bars. When the Cross Bars are removed and properly reinstalled, the noise goes away. Affected Vehicles ^ 1998 Model Year LX 470 Attached Images __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

08-03-05, 10:13 AM	#15
dieselbigot IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 699	how do we get this posted to the FAQ? I'll bet I'm not the first guy to struggle with this... __________________ ------------------ 88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore 99 UZJ100 softcore 03 VW TDI dd 92 M101 cdn

08-03-05, 01:01 PM	#17
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	What happens with the holes in the roof after you take off the rack? Do the original bolts go back in to fill the holes or are there covers or spacers that have to be purchased separately? I have wanted to do this since I bought the Cruiser. I want to remove the rear spoiler over the back window too. __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-03-05, 06:11 PM	#18
mscott IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 84	Can someone comment on how feasible it is to remove the rack for painting? There is absolutely nothing wrong with my rack, but I have been wanting to take it off to paint it a glossy black (or even body color if cost is reasonable) rather than the regular mat black it is currently. I understand this is extremely anal, but is removal/re-install a big project for something as dumb as this?? __________________ '99 LX470 Pearl White, 18 inch rims (tasteful), Toyo Proxes rubber 80K+ miles -- mint mall cruizer...

08-04-05, 07:55 AM	#19
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	I went home last night and dis-assembled one of the corners of the rack. I followed the directions posted above and it was a snap. It would be very easy to remove the rack to have it painted. Once you pull the covers off, there are two bolts holding each corner down. They take a t30 Torx bit to remove the bolts. Once removed, there is a gap in the black plastic strip that covers the track where the rack mounts. Two things need to happen. 1. new shorter bolts need to be put back in to fill the two holes in the roof. 2. a cover needs to go over the section of track that is cut out for the rack. On mine, about halfway down that strip there is a cover for the center section. I'm wondering if those covers can be ordered separately or not. Any of you Parts guys got any info on the covers for those tracks? I can take pics tonight if my description is not adequate. __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-04-05, 01:20 PM	#23
mscott IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 84	Thanks for the info guys, I'll let you know the results if I get time to remove and paint. It looks OK now, just not sweet how I like it... __________________ '99 LX470 Pearl White, 18 inch rims (tasteful), Toyo Proxes rubber 80K+ miles -- mint mall cruizer...

08-05-05, 08:11 AM	#24
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	Last night I removed the rack completely. It took about 10 minutes (very easy). I went to the local hardware store this morning and bought some 8mm x 1.25 bolts that were 12 mm long to fill the holes. The only thing left is the covers needed to fill the holes in the black plastic trim. Halfway down the trim strip is a spot for a middle support bracket. I took a pic of this section so that you could see what is needed to fill in the missing trim. I'm going to contact CDan to see if he can get me 4 more covers. I really like the clean look of the 100 without the rack and spoiler. I'll attach pics in just a minute. __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-05-05, 08:21 AM	#25
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	Here are the pics; sorry about the driveway shots. The first two pics are of the middle area that is not used for the rack, but has the cover and bolts available. I'm thinking maybe there are two types of racks and one has three mounting spots instead of just two like mine. The third pic is of the front passenger side mounting area after the rack is removed. The last two are just pics of what the 100 looks like without the rack, rear spoiler, and running boards. If you ever wondered what your 100 would look like with these items removed, now you know! Cheers Attached Images __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-05-05, 08:22 AM	#26
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	Last two pics: Attached Images __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-10-05, 01:56 PM	#27
Greg B IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, KY TLCA# 15376 Posts: 1,040	Good news! I just heard back from CDan, the plastic covers can be ordered separately and are $5.94 each and it takes 4 of them. I will post another pic once they are installed. __________________ 2001 UZJ100 Land Cruiser ARB bar, OME lift (863's, N74L's), Slee diff drop, 295 BFG AT's, Slee step-sliders, Slee rear bumper, Husky liners, Hella 4000's My Featured 100 Thread

08-27-05, 07:10 PM	#28
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,422	FWIW, my 2000 rack was mounted/bolted in 3 spots on each side.