HID Differences for 100

[2000UZJ]

So i Found HID kits 9006, for my cruiser. im suspicious becuase of there price, 90$. I asked the dealer for more info, he sent me this

I checked out the website of the company you mentioned, they are selling the digital versions. "Digital" HID kits are a new gimmick to make people pay more money. The only difference is they run on slightly less power than normal HID Kits. This has no importance since HID kits already run on half the power of halogen bulbs. So as far as output, color, quality, longivity...there is no difference. As long as it is a real HID kit, there is no difference between my kit and a $400 kit that you can buy. I have been installing them for 4+ years and the longest running kit I know of is over 3 years on my Accord.

This kit comes with an 18 month warranty, they are waterproof/shockproof, and they are complete plug n' play kits. I have attached the specs below...

Tech details:

• ISO 9001:2000,E-Mark
• Input: DC 9V-16V
• Normal Working Voltage: 12V
• Ballast Output Power: 35W
• Life-Expectancy: >3000 hours
• Working Temperature: -40'C-105'C

Does this seem right? And what is the "digitalizer"?

Or main differences between this kit and a 300$ kit/ xenondepot's?

thanks

[mot]

Haven't you got enough lumens for your rig already?

Do you have a link to his page?

I'm not sure about this comment:


The only difference is they run on slightly less power than normal HID Kits.


As I've said in another thread, although I've sold a few sets of aux. lights and I'm into lighting I do not have that much knowledge about the electrical stuff. So maybe the above statement "IS" legit, who knows? But I thought that the digital lets you to run the kit in various voltage systems.
Hopefully others that are more qualified will chime in.

ANYWAY, if you're worried, I would probably pay more and opt to go with someone who's more reputable perhaps someone that other folks that I know/trust have gone with, just so I can sleep better at night.

Good luck!

[2000UZJ]

xenonworks is the company that makes the kits. Thanks for your input mot.

and why dont run infront of me at night and tell me if I have enough lumens

Im gunna wing this one and see. I now have to worry about the aim and glare to other drivers. im kind of worried about this. I dont know how "spread" the light beam will be with stock 2000 LC reflectors.

[mot]

Pssssst, I don't really want to be saying this in public but in Japan Toyota will install TRD (re-badged Bosch or something else, I'm sure) HID replacement kits on vehicles that came with halogen bulbs and still pass the rather strict inspection.

I'm not recommending or endorsing you (or anybody) do it though. That's just the way it is here, even on the texture-lensed 80 series, etc...

Good luck and keep us (Am I the only one who cares? ) posted!

Mot

[2000UZJ]

with a 5K kit, would be be blinding to other drivers/cop pulling me over?

[ginericLC]

I'm also curious about this.

[cruiser100]

Originally Posted by 2000UZJ

with a 5K kit, would be be blinding to other drivers/cop pulling me over?

Go with the closest to 4k you can get. I think 4300 is the temp where you get the most light.

You'll also want to make sure you get pretty solid balasts - there's a company that sells kits with sealed balasts that can deal with the off-road.

If I can find the link I'll post it.

Edit: Here's the link - http://www.mobilehid.com/

Edit 2: Make sure you get a SEPERATE wiring harness for the HID lights. The stock wiring will not do well (i.e. burn-up) with the start-up voltages for the HID balasts.

[2000UZJ]

seperate? the guy said your OEM plug goes into the ballast, then the ballast it wired to the bulb. is this corrct? I have a picture of the box in my email, ill post it up in a minute when I get it off my email... I can probably make a rubber/silicone casing for the ballast, but the bulb is shock proof., from what he has told me.

[2000UZJ]

This is the box, I dont know why its got Japanese on it when its designed in germany. seems sketchy

[bwbski26]

maybe someone can translate the jap on it and tell us what it really says.

[2000UZJ]

is this even japanese???

[mot]

Originally Posted by 2000UZJ

This is the box, I dont know why its got Japanese on it when its designed in germany. seems sketchy

Although it's kind of cheesy the writing is in legitimate Japanese.
Probabaly one of those deals that was designed in Germany (by a Chinese), manufactured in China, and sold in Japan.

Originally Posted by bwbski26

maybe someone can translate the jap on it and tell us what it really says.

It tells you that "If you can read this writing you're being warned not to buy this product because it's a POS!"

I'll have to go back to it and see what it really says.

Originally Posted by 2000UZJ

is this even japanese???

It appears to be (See above).

Back in a jiffy!

[mot]

Hyper HID burners Lightning white
Meets the JDM inspection standards
Low-power usage
Long-life
1 year warranty

BTW, "5k" means it is 5000 Kelvin (color) and not the brightness.
Most of the factory HID's (at least they used to be) were around 4000-4500 K.

Those, I believe, offer the msot lumens(brightness), but would not look quite as "white" or "blu-ish" as some aftermarket ones (slightly less lumens).

PERSONALLY, I would probably go with something upto 6000 K.
But anything HID would be "whiter" and brighter than OEM halogens anyway.

Good luck and keep us posted!!

Mot

[2000UZJ]

Originally Posted by mot

Although it's kind of cheesy the writing is in legitimate Japanese.
Probabaly one of those deals that was designed in Germany (by a Chinese), manufactured in China, and sold in Japan.


It tells you that "If you can read this writing you're being warned not to buy this product because it's a POS!"

I'll have to go back to it and see what it really says.




It appears to be (See above).

Back in a jiffy!

So HID is not a Xenon Kit?
as in like a BMW or Mercedes lights, the bright blue. They turn on dim, and get brighter Xenon. Is that the same as HID?

[cruiser100]

Originally Posted by 2000UZJ

So HID is not a Xenon Kit?
as in like a BMW or Mercedes lights, the bright blue. They turn on dim, and get brighter Xenon. Is that the same as HID?

HID and Xenon are both used to represent "HID".

There are several kits out there; the one you pictured I wouldn't touch with your 10 foot pole.

Go here: www.hidplanet.com/forums

You should be able to get good info on reliable kits from there.

[mot]

Originally Posted by 2000UZJ

So HID is not a Xenon Kit?
as in like a BMW or Mercedes lights, the bright blue. They turn on dim, and get brighter Xenon. Is that the same as HID?

There are some halogen bulbs that say "Xenon" that simply (supposedly) has xenon gas injected in them, but true HID's have ballasts, etc... that upon turning on they're dim, but reach their full brightness after 20-30 secs.

Anyway, so the kit you're considering are probably "true HID" in that sense, at least.

You can ask "What's $90 anyway?", but I would probably do a bit more (re)search and find a relatively inexpensive kit that others have had success with and would not be the first one in any forum to take the plunge on!

GOOD LUCK!!!

Mot

[2000UZJ]

Originally Posted by mot

There are some halogen bulbs that say "Xenon" that simply (supposedly) has xenon gas injected in them, but true HID's have ballasts, etc... that upon turning on they're dim, but reach their full brightness after 20-30 secs.

Anyway, so the kit you're considering are probably "true HID" in that sense, at least.

You can ask "What's $90 anyway?", but I would probably do a bit more (re)search and find a relatively inexpensive kit that others have had success with and would not be the first one in any forum to take the plunge on!

GOOD LUCK!!!

Mot

last thing i need is 90 bucks down the tube. ill do some research. the guy sent me some before after shots. and they looked good. ill call him and ask him exactly where they are made, also what the other company he imports them from is called.

Mot- could you get HID's from japan? those JDM ones

[mot]

I certainly can and would be happy to...

But I feel that there are enough quality (no-name-brand) kits out there where you can get them in the US for much less.

But if you gotta have the name brands like PIAA, BOSCH, IPF, CIBIE, CATZ, BELLOFF (Not necessarily in thar order) etc..., etc... then you gotta pay premium, wherever you're getting them from!

Good luck!!

[Waggoner5]

These are not OEM bulbs but converted base German bulbs. I have used them in many applications including my Tacoma. I use only Factory Toyota Ballasts and these bulbs work perfect everytime. Quality products, correct fitting parts, and correct alignment. I am not affiliated, but a customer.
HIDEXPERT-9006 REBASED D2S/D2R HID BULBS

[Jim_Chow]

Originally Posted by mot

Pssssst, I don't really want to be saying this in public but in Japan Toyota will install TRD (re-badged Bosch or something else, I'm sure) HID replacement kits on vehicles that came with halogen bulbs and still pass the rather strict inspection.

I'm not recommending or endorsing you (or anybody) do it though. That's just the way it is here, even on the texture-lensed 80 series, etc...

Good luck and keep us (Am I the only one who cares? ) posted!

Mot

Does that mean the cutoff pattern will be high on the left side as opposed to the right side due to the right-hand drive? That would blind oncoming traffic here.

I've had my xenondepot 4300K kit on my LX for 2 yrs now. No issues w/ the lights or being flashed by oncoming traffic. The beam pattern is bright and even. FYI, all parts are Philips, though I've heard the newer XD kits have changed and are less reliable.

[1loudLX]

I assume the kit will work for either LHD or RHD vehicles, doubt it changes the lenses, just the bulb like we have(the XD kits).

[SR.GRINGO]

Originally Posted by Waggoner5

These are not OEM bulbs but converted base German bulbs. I have used them in many applications including my Tacoma. I use only Factory Toyota Ballasts and these bulbs work perfect everytime. Quality products, correct fitting parts, and correct alignment. I am not affiliated, but a customer.
HIDEXPERT-9006 REBASED D2S/D2R HID BULBS

When you have some spare time it would be great if you could post up a beam shot.

[mot]

Originally Posted by 1loudLX

I assume the kit will work for either LHD or RHD vehicles, doubt it changes the lenses, just the bulb like we have(the XD kits).

You're right (again).