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08-12-08, 11:23 AM
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a monkey on the edge
Join Date: Aug 2008
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100 series worn out suspension....
my 98 has 155K on the clock and i am thinking the suspension needs to be changed out. Has anyone actually worn out the OEM suspension?
I am guessing it is a good time for a OME..... 
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-12-08, 11:51 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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I've noticed improvements in the past when I've changed out old OME for new OME shocks. I would guess the same to be true for OEM.
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08-12-08, 05:23 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Shock valves and bushings to wear out. Springs sag and torsion bars loose their spring. You can get OEM shocks really cheap from Dan, like $25.
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08-13-08, 08:02 AM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
Shock valves and bushings to wear out. Springs sag and torsion bars loose their spring. You can get OEM shocks really cheap from Dan, like $25.
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do you think just changing out the shocks would suffice?? If i do just change out the shocks should i stick with OEM or should i go OME??
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 09:07 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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If you're not going to lift it, just get the OEMs.
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08-13-08, 09:25 AM
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Jul 2005
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ARB bumpers
Good deal on ARB front and rear bumpers on Craigs list Phoenix
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08-13-08, 09:29 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by kbill45
Good deal on ARB front and rear bumpers on Craigs list Phoenix
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Link?
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08-13-08, 09:46 AM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kbill45
Good deal on ARB front and rear bumpers on Craigs list Phoenix
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lol...talk about a 90 degree turn....
x2 on the link?
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 09:52 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by Liam
lol...talk about a 90 degree turn....
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Uh, you'll need new suspension to support the new bumpers? That's all I've got. 
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08-13-08, 10:14 AM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
Uh, you'll need new suspension to support the new bumpers? That's all I've got. |
good point....
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 10:25 AM
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What the F, OVER?
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I had this exact same question about a year ago when my  99 had about 200K on it. I was thinking of going OEM since they are cheap, and was convinced not too. I'm surprised you have a recommendation to go OEM. The overwhelming majority was to just get bilstein shocks, which I did from ebay, and it was a very wise move. A bit stiffer, not as much body roll in turns, rides nicer. Worth the $333 I think I paid shipped on the bay. That is my .02. Cary is the one that convinced me. Maybe he'll show up and convince you.
It wasn't as hardcore as going OME (as it's not my trail ride yet, key word, yet), but is a nice upgrade from stock.
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1987 FJ60 w/ 207K Mostly Stock, K&N, Jacobs Ignition, Jacobs Wires, Dynomax Muffler and Hi-Flow Cat, Electric Fuel Pump Conversion, Someday...A Lift
1999 UZJ100 w/ 203K, new carpet, 2006 LC rims; No serious Mods planned, it's the wifeys.
2000 Tundra w/ 87K, K&N, Spintech Truck/RV Muffler
1982 GL1100 Honda Goldwing w/ 46K, UNI Filter, 43MPG, commuter bike, put gas in and go.
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08-13-08, 10:31 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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One good point of the OME is a smooth an easy ride on the dirt. Trail rides don't punish you and you come back fresh. At my age that helps.
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08-13-08, 10:31 AM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matador98
I had this exact same question about a year ago when my 99 had about 200K on it. I was thinking of going OEM since they are cheap, and was convinced not too. I'm surprised you have a recommendation to go OEM. The overwhelming majority was to just get bilstein shocks, which I did from ebay, and it was a very wise move. A bit stiffer, not as much body roll in turns, rides nicer. Worth the $333 I think I paid shipped on the bay. That is my .02. Cary is the one that convinced me. Maybe he'll show up and convince you.
It wasn't as hardcore as going OME (as it's not my trail ride yet, key word, yet), but is a nice upgrade from stock. |
cool thanks, i will look into it. I am guessing it is not too hard to replace on my own...
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 11:29 AM
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What the F, OVER?
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No, not too hard, but there were moments I was cussing. The rear shocks like to spin when your unbolting them, so coming up with a way to hold them is necessary. I took the brute force way, and drilled a hole through the top casing of the shock (the unpressurized part) and put a screwdriver through it and then held it. You'll have that problem whether you go OEM, bilstein, or OME.
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1987 FJ60 w/ 207K Mostly Stock, K&N, Jacobs Ignition, Jacobs Wires, Dynomax Muffler and Hi-Flow Cat, Electric Fuel Pump Conversion, Someday...A Lift
1999 UZJ100 w/ 203K, new carpet, 2006 LC rims; No serious Mods planned, it's the wifeys.
2000 Tundra w/ 87K, K&N, Spintech Truck/RV Muffler
1982 GL1100 Honda Goldwing w/ 46K, UNI Filter, 43MPG, commuter bike, put gas in and go.
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08-13-08, 11:33 AM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matador98
No, not too hard, but there were moments I was cussing. The rear shocks like to spin when your unbolting them, so coming up with a way to hold them is necessary. I took the brute force way, and drilled a hole through the top casing of the shock (the unpressurized part) and put a screwdriver through it and then held it. You'll have that problem whether you go OEM, bilstein, or OME.
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cool, i will price out the OME and Bilstein...
should i change anything else while changing them out?
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 12:34 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I went with the full OME deluxe medium kit from Slee that includes Slee's diff drop kit. The installation was very easy as I had them install it since I'm lazy and live nearby! I've been very happy with this setup for the last 40K.
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08-13-08, 02:25 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam
should i change anything else while changing them out?
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If you're doing the work, since your truck is/has been in the NE, start spraying the shock bolts so you don't snap a mount.
Oh, and for the off-topic tangent:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/pts/762947761.html
Last edited by Trunk Monkey; 08-13-08 at 02:47 PM.
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08-13-08, 02:59 PM
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Need $ for Mods
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Who would advertise bumpers and not give the year of the vehicle they are for?
For anyone in the area, the Fog lights are over $300 alone - pretty fair deal it would appear.
For advise on shocks, depends on what you want to do with the rig. Mall Cruiser = comfy OEM, occasional off road and/or more sporty ride = Bilstein, lots of off pavement and added ground clearance = OME.
I still need to talk my into something. Perhaps after Mosquito Pass trip this month she will see the  benefits.
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08-13-08, 03:22 PM
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a monkey on the edge
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWSTOY
Who would advertise bumpers and not give the year of the vehicle they are for?
For anyone in the area, the Fog lights are over $300 alone - pretty fair deal it would appear.
For advise on shocks, depends on what you want to do with the rig. Mall Cruiser = comfy OEM, occasional off road and/or more sporty ride = Bilstein, lots of off pavement and added ground clearance = OME.
I still need to talk my into something. Perhaps after Mosquito Pass trip this month she will see the benefits. |
i am guessing that only the OME shocks wont give you more ground clearance.....
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Originally Posted by re_guderian
It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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08-13-08, 03:40 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam
i am guessing that only the OME shocks wont give you more ground clearance.....
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Unfortunately not. You need the springs to complete the job. Although you can crank up your front torsion bars a bit to level out or lift the front.
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2000 UZJ100, OME 865, OME T-bars, Slee Diff Drop, Slee SliderSteps, TJM T3, PowerStop Cross Drilled & Slotted Rotors, 295 Terra Grapplers
M101 Trailer - Sold
1993 Bontrager Race Lite MTB
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08-13-08, 03:49 PM
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a monkey on the edge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pint
Unfortunately not. You need the springs to complete the job. Although you can crank up your front torsion bars a bit to level out or lift the front.
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i've already done that....it is sitting at even steven right now...
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It's "Attention-whore", not "ATTENTION: Whore". It makes it sound like you're addressing Noah with a bullhorn. NTTIAWWT...
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