Max Tire Size/ No Lift

[nipp]

Going to get some BFG All Terrains, what is the biggest tire I can get without rubbing? I know I have seen it on here before but cant seem to find the thread.

[Travis351]

285/75

[ShottsUZJ100]

Originally Posted by Travis351

285/75

Nope.

295x75

[Trunk Monkey]

I had 285's on my truck for a few weeks pre-lift and would rub going through gutters, bumps, etc.

[ShottsUZJ100]

Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

I had 285's on my truck for a few weeks pre-lift and would rub going through gutters, bumps, etc.

BFG AT's? You might be the first to experience that.

[uzj100]

I have had 285s on 3 99s and 1 00 and never had any rubbing issues.

What about the 255/85 R 16? I believe they will fit without rubbing. If you want tall and skinny.

Will 295s fit without rubbing?

[ShottsUZJ100]

Originally Posted by uzj100

I have had 285s on 3 99s and 1 00 and never had any rubbing issues.

What about the 255/85 R 16? I believe they will fit without rubbing.

Monkey might have been swinging with another model tire. He'll tell us when he's done playing Indiana Jones on the vines.

[Topmounter]

Only thing I found regarding 285's rubbing was when Loud was running them on his fancy spinner wheels pre-lift.

I didn't find any reports of 285's rubbing on 16" factory wheels. Regarding 295's what I found was that you should be planning on lifting pretty soon after installing 295's.

I'm about to get a set of either the BFG AT KO's or Nitto Terra Grapplers. Everyone seems to say great things about the Nitto's and you can get 5 of them for the price of 4 AT KO's. Of course you can split the difference with the Goodyear Silent Armor tires, which seem to get excellent reviews.

edit - I would like to see the BFG AT KO 265/75R/16's on an un-lifted 100.

[1loudLX]

Originally Posted by Topmounter

Only thing I found regarding 285's rubbing was when Loud was running them on his fancy spinner wheels pre-lift.


edit - I would like to see the BFG AT KO 265/75R/16's on an un-lifted 100.

Yeah, my wheels stuck out 48mm more then stock on each side...causing the 285s to slap the fenders. Ive got stock wheels now and they dont rub, even when I put the AHC in LOW.


I think I can find pictures of a white 2003 with the BFG AT KO 265/75R/16s and stock suspension, macneills buddy that they just put the TJM side bars on had em.


EDIT - this is the only picture I seem to have

[Topmounter]

Well they certainly look comfortable under there. A little more narrow (-0.8inch) and a little shorter (-1.1inch) than the 285's according to the BFG website.

I guess the 285 would do better if I lift at some point in the future. Most of my off-road driving I've been doing has been on jeep / fire roads, some sort of steep with a lot of loose rock. Am I right in thinking narrow is better for that sort of stuff?


Ooh, and I can get 265 Nitto TG's for $130 each it appears...

[Trunk Monkey]

BFG AT load range E (most are D). Like I said, it was only if I didn't slow down for dips or driveways, it'd contact in the front.

[macneill]

FWIW, I think the 265s are puny. They came off his old Rover. I believe 295s are the largest you can go.

I had 305s with lift and they rubbed just a bit.

Originally Posted by 1loudLX

I think I can find pictures of a white 2003 with the BFG AT KO 265/75R/16s and stock suspension, macneills buddy that they just put the TJM side bars on had em.

[Topmounter]

Why is it the non-NA rigs tend to have the white letters exposed and the NA rigs don't? When I was 16 it was cool to have the white letters exposed on your pick-up..

Just one more thing to add to my list of considerations for my trip to the tire store tomorrow

[uzj100]

White letters in and not exposed.

[Topmounter]

Originally Posted by uzj100

White letters in and not exposed.

but... but...

[1loudLX]

if my truck was white i would have the letters showing, but its not. So i let the dirt build up on the letters on the inside.

[anthonycds]

Top, you could always attempt to bring the trend back

[Exiled]

I run 285/75 BFG ATs and they rub slightly in some situations. They're mounted on non-US OEM steel wheels, same dimensions as the stock alloys.

I ran a set of BFGs with the white lettering out, many years ago. Pretty soon, the lettering was scraped and yellowed and dirty and always looked like crap. So ever since, white letters go on the inside!

[uzj100]

Nice. White letters out on a $100k+ dakar style race truck is OK. That is my favorite 100 by far.

[Topmounter]

Until the sponsorship dollars start rolling in, the white letters go inside!!!

[uzj100]

Good choice!

[Topmounter]

Had to order the "D" AT/KO's in a 285, having them installed Friday morning. They had the "E" model, but I don't think I have enough meat on my wheels to make them ride smooth.

Of course now I have to decide whether to get the $25/tire no-questions-asked tire insurance (tire swap down to 3/32", no pro-rate)... I usually don't buy the insurance, but I don't normally buy tires that I expect to last 60k miles and cost north of $150/per.

[cruiser100]

Originally Posted by Topmounter

Had to order the "D" AT/KO's in a 285, having them installed Friday morning. They had the "E" model, but I don't think I have enough meat on my wheels to make them ride smooth.

Of course now I have to decide whether to get the $25/tire no-questions-asked tire insurance (tire swap down to 3/32", no pro-rate)... I usually don't buy the insurance, but I don't normally buy tires that I expect to last 60k miles and cost north of $150/per.

I have always pick up the insurance, used it twice. The first time I caught a nice sharp rock in the sidewall on a almost new BFG AT. At the time it was a $100 tire. The second time my destroyed an MT on a curb-I didn't ask questions.

It has paid for itself.

[r3run33]

wouldn't the e be better for durability?? what i am asking it has to be stronger some where? side walls? etc any ideas how these are made and then rated?

[Topmounter]

Originally Posted by r3run33

wouldn't the e be better for durability?? what i am asking it has to be stronger some where? side walls? etc any ideas how these are made and then rated?

10-ply instead of 8-ply. It seems they're better for heavier vehicles, like really heavy diesels. Supposedly the ride isn't as good, nor is the performance in snow.

[Trunk Monkey]

Originally Posted by Topmounter

10-ply instead of 8-ply. It seems they're better for heavier vehicles, like really heavy diesels. Supposedly the ride isn't as good, nor is the performance in snow.

Ride's fine, did great last winter.

[Topmounter]

Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

Ride's fine, did great last winter.

Interesting, TireRack's specs for the E say the following:

285/75QR16
Blackwall

• Not Rated For Severe SnowServ. Desc: 126/123Q
• Load Rating E