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06-18-08, 07:55 AM
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IH8MUD Junior
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Scangauge II install
Got the SGII installed last night. Pretty pleased with the result. If you install one, no you can't center it due to the ashtray (and yes, I figured that out before attaching it  ). Have to go through the set up of it today and figure out how to use it, but it's easily viewable while driving. Thanks to travis351 for the location idea. I just routed the cable a bit differently....
But this is especially useful in an older 100. My 2000 doesn't have any kind of trip computer (other than on speedo) at all, so this provides that plus a bunch of other data. Took me 30 minutes to do, but could do another one in 5.
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06-18-08, 08:54 AM
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Nice, mine should be arriving today. I was sort of surprised not to find some sort of trip computer in my LC, unless you went with the full nav.
If I weren't going to stick with my factory in-dash, then I might consider a single-DIN unit so I could mount the SGII in the remaining opening. Otherwise there's not much dash real estate to play with in the LC.
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06-18-08, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topmounter
Nice, mine should be arriving today. I was sort of surprised not to find some sort of trip computer in my LC, unless you went with the full nav.
If I weren't going to stick with my factory in-dash, then I might consider a single-DIN unit so I could mount the SGII in the remaining opening. Otherwise there's not much dash real estate to play with in the LC.
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That would be a great idea if single DIN. I got the Nak fixed, and like the factory look and sound of the system.
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06-18-08, 09:19 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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The SG is just barely too tall for a DIN opening, I tried that with my 80. So on the 100 do you have to relocate the OBD port?
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06-18-08, 09:28 AM
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I wasn't aware that something existed that was so easy to install. Can you briefly tell me about your install?
Thanks
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06-18-08, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasis0066
I wasn't aware that something existed that was so easy to install. Can you briefly tell me about your install?
Thanks
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Sure. Per the earlier post from travis 351 and viewing the threads, I knew the OBDII port was above the gas pedal. So, I pulled out the ashtray, and gripped the cup holder and pulled up and it popped free. Disconnected the seat heaters, put it in "D" and was able to rotate the panel up and over the gearshift and into the driver's footwell. Just fished the wire up and under the ashtray, pulled the excess in near the shifter, and left just a little wire sticking out. Then rotated panel back up and over, reconnected heaters, and while holding the amount of wire that I needed out, popped the panel back on. Used just one of the pieces of velcro included so I have a spare if necessary. Started the truck, plugged in the OBDII end, and it's a done deal. I think I have to tell it engine size, gas tank size, and the cost per gallon, and maybe a few other things, and it does the rest. Interesting to see near realtime what mpg is. Going up the hill out of the hood I get a slamming 3.6 mpg! But it's pretty sweet, and easy to read from the driver's seat. You can customize what it shows you on the screen as the default, too.
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06-18-08, 11:13 AM
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Now we're just waiting on the SGII heads-up display mod
Also, the SGII will work on nearly any 1996 or later vehicle. The ODBCII port is what many states use for vehicle emissions testing (they check the computer to see if there are any faults).
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06-18-08, 11:24 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topmounter
Also, the SGII will work on nearly any 1996 or later vehicle. The ODBCII port is what many states use for vehicle emissions testing (they check the computer to see if there are any faults).
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It's OBD (on-board diagnostics). And it's the main port for all diagnostics and control, not just emissions. You should see the sweet computer Toyota techs have to check things out. The SG can also read and clear CEL codes, one of the reasons I got it for my 80. But, it doesn't sound like the 100 has any common CEL issues.
2000 - I asked earlier, did you have to change the location of the OBD port at all? In the 80 you have to unscrew it and put it behind the dash.
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06-18-08, 11:38 AM
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IH8MUD Junior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pegasis0066
I wasn't aware that something existed that was so easy to install. Can you briefly tell me about your install?
Thanks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
It's OBD (on-board diagnostics). And it's the main port for all diagnostics and control, not just emissions. You should see the sweet computer Toyota techs have to check things out. The SG can also read and clear CEL codes, one of the reasons I got it for my 80. But, it doesn't sound like the 100 has any common CEL issues.
2000 - I asked earlier, did you have to change the location of the OBD port at all? In the 80 you have to unscrew it and put it behind the dash.
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Apologies, Trunk--not sure I understood the question. But no, left it where it was. Just plugged into it, and pulled the extra cable up through so it wouldn't hang down. The SGII comes with a 6 foot cable. The only other place I'd like it mounted is up around the headliner somewhere, but didn't think I had enough cable (that's what she said  ), and didn't want to screw with messing up the headliner.
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06-18-08, 11:44 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Nice, that's what I was hoping for. On the 80 the fuse panel and OBD port are by your left knee behind a panel. So, it means either leaving everything exposed or relocating the port behind the dash. Guess I'll hook mine up tonight.
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06-18-08, 12:02 PM
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I did the same install and picked up an extra cable for about $20 so that i could use the reader in other vehicles, should the need arise, which it has a couple times already. I can just take off the head unit and leave the installed wire undisturbed.
Greg
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06-18-08, 12:15 PM
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IH8MUD Junior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkinlights
I did the same install and picked up an extra cable for about $20 so that i could use the reader in other vehicles, should the need arise, which it has a couple times already. I can just take off the head unit and leave the installed wire undisturbed.
Greg
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THAT, is a good idea.
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06-18-08, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
It's OBD (on-board diagnostics). And it's the main port for all diagnostics and control, not just emissions. You should see the sweet computer Toyota techs have to check things out. The SG can also read and clear CEL codes, one of the reasons I got it for my 80. But, it doesn't sound like the 100 has any common CEL issues.
2000 - I asked earlier, did you have to change the location of the OBD port at all? In the 80 you have to unscrew it and put it behind the dash.
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or yeah... OBDC... transposed a couple letters.
I thought OBDC (1) was pre-96 and not widely implemented and OBDCII was required by the feds starting in 1996?
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06-18-08, 02:40 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topmounter
or yeah... OBDC... transposed a couple letters.
I thought OBDC (1) was pre-96 and not widely implemented and OBDCII was required by the feds starting in 1996?
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Cruisers had OBD1 and the change over to OBD2 was hazy. Some '95s have 1, some have 2.
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06-18-08, 04:21 PM
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You want to do what...?
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would be nice to hear a bit more about the calibration of the fuel use data and how accurate the standard settings are...
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06-18-08, 04:33 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by e9999
would be nice to hear a bit more about the calibration of the fuel use data and how accurate the standard settings are...
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Worked great on my 80.
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06-18-08, 07:26 PM
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IH8MUD Junior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by e9999
would be nice to hear a bit more about the calibration of the fuel use data and how accurate the standard settings are...
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Still getting used to the thing but had some time in the truck today. It shows various data for the trip you're on, the day, the previous day, and the tank (as I recall). What you do is fill up at a station and tell it you just filled up. Drive down to ~ 1/4 tank, and at teh same station, same pump, facing same direction, fill it up again. Then you can tell it you refiled, and it tells you what it thinks you added, and you adjust it to tell it how much you actually put in. This is a one time step you have to take to calibrate it correctly. At some point will get around to checking it manually versus the computer, but I have to believe it's mighty close to accurate.
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06-18-08, 09:06 PM
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IH8MUD Regular
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Just got my gadgets hooked up today at the CarToys at 6th & Broadway in Denver per Slee's recommendation. Amory did a great job and I'll definitely be going back for all my future audio upgrades.
I had the USA*SPEC iPod adaptor installed. It's a pretty slick unit, when the iPod is connected it takes the place of the in-dash changer, set in hybrid mode you can control the iPod from either the in-dash or directly on the iPod itself. When the iPod is unplugged I get the in-dash changer back. I had both the Ipod cable and RCA cables for the AUX input run into the armrest console, so I have plenty of input options now.
The SGII is mounted in the same location as 2000 LX 470's with the wire routing through the console. Nice and out of the way. The guys at CarToys were rather impressed with the SGII. The tuner-types were saying that to date they've basically had to buy $5k diagnostic meters to get that level of telemetry out of the OBDC (I'm sure the diagnostic meters do a lot more, but the telemetry data is what they were primarily trying to get at).
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06-18-08, 10:23 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Yea, I'm cool too! Not that the 80 was a difficult install, but damn that was easy. Not really concerned about monitoring much on the 100, but it's fun to see what horrible gas mileage we're getting.
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06-19-08, 12:19 PM
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IH8MUD Regular
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Here we go... I doubt it's related to the wiring, but I had a rude awakening this morning. We had a brief thundershower early this morning and my LC's alarm has gone off four times since. It's sitting in the driveway, apparently undisturbed. Each time it's gone off for about a minute or so and then stopped. The third and fourth times I turned it off with the remote and everything appears to be functioning per normal. Too bad the alarm doesn't log which sensor tripped it. It hasn't happened again for 2+ hours.
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