Towing w/ Slee Rear Bumper??

Zane · 03-13-08, 08:58 AM

Ok, I know that the Slee rear bumper is NOT rated, more than likely due to the PIA it is to get something approved through the DOT. But my question for all of you is have any of you towed with it? If yes, how much weight. I'm considering towing an FJ40 on a flat bed and wanted to get some feedback before I did so.

Zane

LandCruisers4Life · 03-13-08, 09:24 AM

My dad once made his own design one-off of an EZ-Lift hitch system. Just because it's not DOT approved doesn't mean it isn't strong. The guys who design aftermarket parts could be considered engineers, even without a degree (who knows, maybe they DO have an engineering degree). That sort of thing used to happen more often many years ago - men became engineers from experience in the field. I know a mechanical engineer who never went to school- he learned on the job.

I am sure Slees bumper is fine for whatever you are towing, but I am sure he will drop in to tell you his opinion and give a disclaimer. Most of the stuff that is designed by off road companies on this web site is all built over-kill.

gearguywb · 03-13-08, 03:48 PM

Maybe Christo can chime in here....I would like to get one of his rear bumpers and have a Kimberly Kamper that I tow with the 100

sleeoffroad · 03-13-08, 04:22 PM

We have looked at getting the bumper rated. The problem is cost and no-one can actually tell you how to do it. I can have the bumper tested to SAE standards for a class II or Class III receiver (or whatever we want). The testing lab will then give you a report that the bumper has passed the applicable test, however this in itself is not a rating.

When a supplier rates a receiver, they warrantee that the truck can tow the stated capacity using the receiver as bolted to their vehicle in the factory approved way, for the duration of the life of the truck. Obviously we can not do that.

That is at least how I understood it when I looked into it. That said, the King Kamper is sexy behind the 100

And no, this is not an endorsement that you can tow with the bumper.

CrusrDug · 03-13-08, 05:11 PM

Christo-

Do you know if you can leave the factory hitch on and install the bumper? My hitch hangs right below the factory bumper, but without looking at it I don't know how it is attached. Seems like the same concept as stuffing the factory bumper in between.

sleeoffroad · 03-13-08, 05:35 PM

yes, you can run the receiver below the bumper.

gearguywb · 03-13-08, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeoffroad

yes, you can run the receiver below the bumper.

Given that...then the safest thing is to put the hitch below the bumper, then no worries.

Thanks Christo!

offroadkid · 03-13-08, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeoffroad

yes, you can run the receiver below the bumper.

Good to know!! I was wondering about being able to tow with your bumper, but now that you say it will fit with the hitch, that's good news!!

Boston Mangler · 03-13-08, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeoffroad

We have looked at getting the bumper rated. The problem is cost and no-one can actually tell you how to do it. I can have the bumper tested to SAE standards for a class II or Class III receiver (or whatever we want). The testing lab will then give you a report that the bumper has passed the applicable test, however this in itself is not a rating.

When a supplier rates a receiver, they warrantee that the truck can tow the stated capacity using the receiver as bolted to their vehicle in the factory approved way, for the duration of the life of the truck. Obviously we can not do that.

That is at least how I understood it when I looked into it. That said, the King Kamper is sexy behind the 100.

Very good info! I was wondernig the same thing!

How much the KK weigh?

jones · 03-13-08, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Mangler

Very good info! I was wondernig the same thing!

How much the KK weigh?

According to their site, tare weight is 2,000 lbs. Monetary weight is only $20K. I'll take two please.

ginericLC · 03-14-08, 06:22 AM

I didn't do it, but the previous owner of my 100 towed a 40 with my 100 with a Slee rear bumper. I've towed a trailer with probably 4500lbs or so in it. They were cows and I didn't weigh each one. It didn't seem to phase it. I am not worried about towing with it for as much as the 100 can handle.

gearguywb · 03-14-08, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginericLC

I didn't do it, but the previous owner of my 100 towed a 40 with my 100 with a Slee rear bumper. I've towed a trailer with probably 4500lbs or so in it. They were cows and I didn't weigh each one. It didn't seem to phase it. I am not worried about towing with it for as much as the 100 can handle.

Great info....thanks!

Zane · 03-14-08, 10:08 AM

excellent! Thank you all for your input, it has been very helpful.

Zane

spressomon · 03-17-08, 09:16 AM

Zane: FWIW I have towed my AT Horizon from my Slee bumper for the past 18-months without incident over approximately 5,000-6,000 miles with some fairly rough terrain in there too. I estimate our fully loaded AT should weigh in at approximately 2,200-2,400lbs.

zmcnelis · 03-17-08, 08:11 PM

I towed a 40 from GA to VA (roughly 600 miles) using a U-Haul trailer with no issues. There are pictures below...keep in mind the 100 series has 5 extra Wheels/Tired in the rear.

e9999 · 03-17-08, 10:51 PM

GLC, next time you tow cows, could you please take some pics if it's an open trailer? Those would have great potential here....

1loudLX · 03-17-08, 11:02 PM

who needs to take the

truck to the store to get milk when you can bring the milk to your house?

ckkone · 03-19-08, 07:36 AM

For those that tow, what did you come up with for attaching the tow chains to the bumper? I was planning on drilling some holes and bolting some of these up:

Zane · 03-19-08, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckkone

For those that tow, what did you come up with for attaching the tow chains to the bumper? I was planning on drilling some holes and bolting some of these up:

I was planning on wrapping a chain through the rear frame rail on both left and right sides? Good question I will be interested in hearing what others are doing.

ckkone · 03-19-08, 09:32 AM

Looks like Christo welded up some loops on this one:

cruiser100 · 03-19-08, 06:42 PM

Why not just attach them to the recovery points on the Slee?

hoser · 03-19-08, 07:58 PM

2k lb trailer + 2k lb car = 4k lbs total. Towed with ease.

Lindercruiser · 03-19-08, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

2k lb trailer + 2k lb car = 4k lbs total. Towed with ease.

Woohoo!!!! Fellow Datsun and 100 series owner in the bay area!!! I just started the restoration on my 1967 1600 fairlady!!!

Linder

pint · 03-19-08, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoser

2k lb trailer + 2k lb car = 4k lbs total. Towed with ease.

Is that a Datsun 510? Sweet looking car...nice LX as well!

hoser · 03-19-08, 08:54 PM

Linder, that looks like a great base project, straight and rust free! I really like the roadsters.

Pint, yes it's a 510. I've been a 510 fanatic for about 20 years. This is 1 of 6 I've had over the years.

Lindercruiser · 03-19-08, 09:07 PM

Its a family car, actually my mom was the first owner, believe it or not it has 59k original miles on it, its a great little car. I just did a complete engine overhaul on it and it runs great, gotta love duel carbs and a four speed!

Will post pics as I move along in the project!

Linder

hoser · 03-19-08, 09:39 PM

The fact that you mom was the original owner is way cool! As for dual carbs and four speed, I went the other way and went fuel injection, turbo, intercooler and a 5 speed

As for towing with the Slee bumper, I would not hesitate to tow up to the rated capacity of the 100.

03-13-08, 08:58 AM	#1
Zane IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 546	Towing w/ Slee Rear Bumper?? Ok, I know that the Slee rear bumper is NOT rated, more than likely due to the PIA it is to get something approved through the DOT. But my question for all of you is have any of you towed with it? If yes, how much weight. I'm considering towing an FJ40 on a flat bed and wanted to get some feedback before I did so. Zane __________________ Zane Zwerenz 2000 UZJ100: 285/75/16 BFG's, OME Torsion Bars, OME 866, Slee Diff Drop Kit, ARB Sahara Bar, Slee Rear Bumper, Hella 4000's,Safari Snorkel, Custom Built Sliders, Custom Built Rear Tire Carrier, Modified Mombassa RTT 1997 FZJ80 (SOLD): Custom Built Sliders, Custom Built T-Case Skid Plate, Custom Built OEM Bumper Tire Carrier, Rear Storage Solution, Modified Mombassa RTT, 851/860 OME, 285/75/16 TOYO Open Country MT's, www.tornadoalleycruisers.com

03-13-08, 09:24 AM	#2
LandCruisers4Life IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas TLCA# 16244 Posts: 1,526	My dad once made his own design one-off of an EZ-Lift hitch system. Just because it's not DOT approved doesn't mean it isn't strong. The guys who design aftermarket parts could be considered engineers, even without a degree (who knows, maybe they DO have an engineering degree). That sort of thing used to happen more often many years ago - men became engineers from experience in the field. I know a mechanical engineer who never went to school- he learned on the job. I am sure Slees bumper is fine for whatever you are towing, but I am sure he will drop in to tell you his opinion and give a disclaimer. Most of the stuff that is designed by off road companies on this web site is all built over-kill. __________________ 2004 UZJ100 "El Rinoceronte" - Gotta pay to play...

03-13-08, 03:48 PM	#3
gearguywb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: confused as h*** Posts: 676	Maybe Christo can chime in here....I would like to get one of his rear bumpers and have a Kimberly Kamper that I tow with the 100 __________________ '04 100, Revo's OME lift/T bars, home made storage, Slee sliders (Sid), ARB, Warn 8k. Kimberly Kamper (Kim) More mountain bikes than I care to count!

03-13-08, 04:22 PM	#4
sleeoffroad IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,681	We have looked at getting the bumper rated. The problem is cost and no-one can actually tell you how to do it. I can have the bumper tested to SAE standards for a class II or Class III receiver (or whatever we want). The testing lab will then give you a report that the bumper has passed the applicable test, however this in itself is not a rating. When a supplier rates a receiver, they warrantee that the truck can tow the stated capacity using the receiver as bolted to their vehicle in the factory approved way, for the duration of the life of the truck. Obviously we can not do that. That is at least how I understood it when I looked into it. That said, the King Kamper is sexy behind the 100 And no, this is not an endorsement that you can tow with the bumper. __________________ Christo Slee BlueBerry aka Beluga - NOW FOR SALE

03-13-08, 05:11 PM	#5
CrusrDug IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 424	Christo- Do you know if you can leave the factory hitch on and install the bumper? My hitch hangs right below the factory bumper, but without looking at it I don't know how it is attached. Seems like the same concept as stuffing the factory bumper in between. __________________ 06 LC, Toyo A/T 275/70/18, AHC "mini" lift and 1.5 inch spacers removed due to rubbing PM me if you need spacers!

03-13-08, 05:35 PM	#6
sleeoffroad IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,681	yes, you can run the receiver below the bumper. __________________ Christo Slee BlueBerry aka Beluga - NOW FOR SALE

03-14-08, 06:22 AM	#11
ginericLC IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MH, IDaho TLCA# 7328 Posts: 3,258	I didn't do it, but the previous owner of my 100 towed a 40 with my 100 with a Slee rear bumper. I've towed a trailer with probably 4500lbs or so in it. They were cows and I didn't weigh each one. It didn't seem to phase it. I am not worried about towing with it for as much as the 100 can handle. __________________ Eric V. TLCA 7328 99 UZJ100 "Barnacle Edition" under construction FJ68 PROJECT (60 body, 80 Chassis and Running Gear) 74 FJ15 (that is about all that is left of it) WAGON PARTS FS http://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/189134-wagon-stuff-80-100-60-55-few-40-items.html ADIDALC "real environmentalists don't pave roads" "dents are like tattoos with better stories" www.WildWildWestArt.com

03-14-08, 10:08 AM	#13
Zane IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 546	excellent! Thank you all for your input, it has been very helpful. Zane __________________ Zane Zwerenz 2000 UZJ100: 285/75/16 BFG's, OME Torsion Bars, OME 866, Slee Diff Drop Kit, ARB Sahara Bar, Slee Rear Bumper, Hella 4000's,Safari Snorkel, Custom Built Sliders, Custom Built Rear Tire Carrier, Modified Mombassa RTT 1997 FZJ80 (SOLD): Custom Built Sliders, Custom Built T-Case Skid Plate, Custom Built OEM Bumper Tire Carrier, Rear Storage Solution, Modified Mombassa RTT, 851/860 OME, 285/75/16 TOYO Open Country MT's, www.tornadoalleycruisers.com

03-17-08, 09:16 AM	#14
spressomon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 4,815	Zane: FWIW I have towed my AT Horizon from my Slee bumper for the past 18-months without incident over approximately 5,000-6,000 miles with some fairly rough terrain in there too. I estimate our fully loaded AT should weigh in at approximately 2,200-2,400lbs. __________________ Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM

03-17-08, 08:11 PM	#15
zmcnelis IH8MUD Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 25	I towed a 40 from GA to VA (roughly 600 miles) using a U-Haul trailer with no issues. There are pictures below...keep in mind the 100 series has 5 extra Wheels/Tired in the rear. Attached Images __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 UZJ00, ARB Rear Locker, ARB Bullbar, Slee Rear bumers/sliders, Warn 8K, 33s 95 FZJ80 (TRD, ARB F/R, ARB Front, Warn 12000, TJM Rear, 315 MTR's, Slee Sliders) 77 FJ40 2F, 34s, Sliders, Aussie Rear 69 FJ40 WIP

03-17-08, 10:51 PM	#16
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,191	GLC, next time you tow cows, could you please take some pics if it's an open trailer? Those would have great potential here.... __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650

03-17-08, 11:02 PM	#17
1loudLX Mall-Cruiser Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York TLCA# I NO HAZ K? Posts: 2,847	who needs to take the truck to the store to get milk when you can bring the milk to your house? __________________ 2000 Lexus LX470 - K&N/SLP/HIDs/Clear Corners/LEDs/Nav/Sirius/Black LC 16"s/BFG AT 285s/Blacked out trim 2005 Specialized FSR XC - CF HBar/XC Stem/Alias 143 Seat/Sidewinder Grips Oo==L==oO Need 100 3rd row seats? http://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/2...ml#post3604000 Need some Michelin LTX M/S 275/70/16's? http://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-tires-w...-shipping.html

03-19-08, 07:36 AM	#18
ckkone IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SLC, UTAH Posts: 414	For those that tow, what did you come up with for attaching the tow chains to the bumper? I was planning on drilling some holes and bolting some of these up: __________________ Chris 99' UZJ100 - 295.75.16 Nitto TG, OME L shock lift, ARB bull bar, Slee steps, Slee rear bumper, Slee diff drop

03-19-08, 09:32 AM	#20
ckkone IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SLC, UTAH Posts: 414	Looks like Christo welded up some loops on this one: Attached Images __________________ Chris 99' UZJ100 - 295.75.16 Nitto TG, OME L shock lift, ARB bull bar, Slee steps, Slee rear bumper, Slee diff drop

03-19-08, 06:42 PM	#21
cruiser100 Comfortably Numb Join Date: May 2007 Location: NE Atlanta, GA TLCA# 17632 Posts: 197	Why not just attach them to the recovery points on the Slee? __________________ 2005 UZJ100 OME T-Bars, OME 2" 'Heavy' Lift Kit, Slee Diff Drop, ARB Combo Bumper, Warn XD9000, Slee Rear Bumper w/Tire Carrier, Slee Sliders I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they have good ideas...

03-19-08, 07:58 PM	#22
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,745	2k lb trailer + 2k lb car = 4k lbs total. Towed with ease. Attached Images __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

03-19-08, 08:54 PM	#25
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,745	Linder, that looks like a great base project, straight and rust free! I really like the roadsters. Pint, yes it's a 510. I've been a 510 fanatic for about 20 years. This is 1 of 6 I've had over the years. __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70

03-19-08, 09:07 PM	#26
Lindercruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sonoma/Lake Tahoe Posts: 57	Its a family car, actually my mom was the first owner, believe it or not it has 59k original miles on it, its a great little car. I just did a complete engine overhaul on it and it runs great, gotta love duel carbs and a four speed! Will post pics as I move along in the project! Linder __________________ 2000 UZJ 100, the work horse 2005 Tacoma, stage three coilover lift from Donohoe 2008 Ford F250, twin turbo powerstroke 2007 BMW E60 M5, 505 horses of fury

03-19-08, 09:39 PM	#27
hoser IH8MUD No-Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,745	The fact that you mom was the original owner is way cool! As for dual carbs and four speed, I went the other way and went fuel injection, turbo, intercooler and a 5 speed As for towing with the Slee bumper, I would not hesitate to tow up to the rated capacity of the 100. __________________ 98 LX470 85 BJ70