How many years on a OEM battery?

[Jim_Chow]

Just ordered my Odyssey. I ended getting the pc1700MJT from west coast batteries ($198.95+shipping, better than any of the prices I found on the web). The other options were the pc1500 (but terminals are reversed and they don't make one yet non-reversed) and the pc1700/65 (group 65 size, terminals also reversed). The PC1700/65 measures 11.92 x 7.17 x 7.58, so closer to the OEM size (about 12 x 6.75 x 7.8).

As far as keeping the battery from sliding around, the guy at west coast batteries suggested removing the battery from the metal jacket bucket using a putty knife (it's glued in there) and bolting the bucket down to become the battery tray. One could use a piece of plywood w/ a hole drilled inside it so the bolt is flush and doesn't poke into the battery. Another possibility is getting a group 30 cast aluminum battery tray base. I also got a 3A BCSC 3-stage charger/trickle charger since the vehicle sometimes isn't driven for a few weeks.

http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2...de=batboxrex30

BTW, he recommended only using metal jacket batteries if it's in the engine compartment due to heat shielding.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Jim_Chow

As far as keeping the battery from sliding around, the guy at west coast batteries suggested removing the battery from the metal jacket bucket using a putty knife (it's glued in there) and bolting the bucket down to become the battery tray. One could use a piece of plywood w/ a hole drilled inside it so the bolt is flush and doesn't poke into the battery. Another possibility is getting a group 30 cast aluminum battery tray base. I also got a 3A BCSC 3-stage charger/trickle charger since the vehicle sometimes isn't driven for a few weeks.

Jim,
I just put a 1" thick piece of plywood (actually a 3/4" piece and a 1/4" piece) in the stock battery tray under the battery and used the factory hold-down bracket and it worked great. I sprayed the plywood with some flat black spray paint and you couldn't even tell the spacer was there. Pulling the cover off a new battery seems a little extreme to me.

Here's some more info: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...hlight=odyssey

[SWUtah]

Originally Posted by Jim_Chow

Just ordered my Odyssey. I ended getting the pc1700MJT from west coast batteries ($198.95+shipping, better than any of the prices I found on the web). The other options were the pc1500 (but terminals are reversed and they don't make one yet non-reversed) and the pc1700/65 (group 65 size, terminals also reversed). The PC1700/65 measures 11.92 x 7.17 x 7.58, so closer to the OEM size (about 12 x 6.75 x 7.8).

As far as keeping the battery from sliding around, the guy at west coast batteries suggested removing the battery from the metal jacket bucket using a putty knife (it's glued in there) and bolting the bucket down to become the battery tray. One could use a piece of plywood w/ a hole drilled inside it so the bolt is flush and doesn't poke into the battery. Another possibility is getting a group 30 cast aluminum battery tray base. I also got a 3A BCSC 3-stage charger/trickle charger since the vehicle sometimes isn't driven for a few weeks.

http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2...de=batboxrex30

BTW, he recommended only using metal jacket batteries if it's in the engine compartment due to heat shielding.

So why didn't you get a OEM battery?

[Jim_Chow]

Originally Posted by SWUtah

So why didn't you get a OEM battery?

I couldn't find anyone who sells the Panasonic battery.

[tech_dog]

Originally Posted by Jim_Chow

I couldn't find anyone who sells the Panasonic battery.

Ditto.

[NMuzj100]

From the parts guru ....

Originally Posted by NMuzj100

(PM to the cruiserdan of American Toyota)
Dan,

Is it possible to buy the original equipment battery that comes with a new 100?

Thanks, Matthew

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Nope, only in a new vehicle.

If they were imported loose the hazmat containment costs and tariffs would push the cost to probably over 400 bucks a copy.

Nobody wants to spend that much....

[collector_edi]

OEM/1997/130K

I will be replacing the battery this weekend. I've been struggling with terminal corrosion for the past month and I'm tired of cleaning them.

[SWUtah]

Originally Posted by collector_edi

OEM/1997/130K

I will be replacing the battery this weekend. I've been struggling with terminal corrosion for the past month and I'm tired of cleaning them.

WOW!!!

[johncarron]

7 years / 70K mi. Started a few weeks back at 22 below no problem (Fraser, CO)

[Jim_Chow]

Originally Posted by tech_dog

Ditto.

In fact, here's the P/N I pulled off the panasonic: 105D31L-MF. Try to do a search on that...nothing! IMHO, I don't think they're sold in N. America.

[justimaginejack]

My original Panasonic made it from 2000 to late 2006 with a 127k on it and I could of had it recharged but figured I would replace it anyway. I had done some research and it seams there are only a few large battery manufacturers in the US and many of the people I asked said to use a Megatron Plus interstate battery with 800cca. I am not sure how this would apply to LC's but my dad has it in his LS430 and My friend who drives like a nut has it in his 2000 S500 I figured if it would work for that I would be ok. they have more gagets than I do right now. I am pretty sure it was about 100 bucks with an 7 year warrenty.

http://www.interstatebatteries.com/e...CRank%7C1&js=1

I wonder and I asked this in another thread. What is the best? Apparently the japanese use a different battery and so do the Austrailians, I have seen them online, they look like military style boxes and have well over 1000cca and are supposedly able to take a blast. I don't know if any of us would need that but If I can find them again I will do a post.

[Jim_Chow]

Originally Posted by justimaginejack

My original Panasonic made it from 2000 to late 2006 with a 127k on it and I could of had it recharged but figured I would replace it anyway. I had done some research and it seams there are only a few large battery manufacturers in the US and many of the people I asked said to use a Megatron Plus interstate battery with 800cca. I am not sure how this would apply to LC's but my dad has it in his LS430 and My friend who drives like a nut has it in his 2000 S500 I figured if it would work for that I would be ok. they have more gagets than I do right now. I am pretty sure it was about 100 bucks with an 7 year warrenty.

http://www.interstatebatteries.com/e...CRank%7C1&js=1

I wonder and I asked this in another thread. What is the best? Apparently the japanese use a different battery and so do the Austrailians, I have seen them online, they look like military style boxes and have well over 1000cca and are supposedly able to take a blast. I don't know if any of us would need that but If I can find them again I will do a post.

Since where you live doesn't get very hot, any battery that puts out 700 CCA's or so should work fine and last years. It's mainly when you operate in extreme heat where you need the fancy mil-spec batteries. Remember, battery life halves for every 15 degrees over 77F, so in AZ. In other places in the world, 130F is more of the norm during the summer rather than the exception, and remember that the OEM LC battery is designed to handle that. Here in AZ, the run-of-the-mill cheapo domestic battery lasts ~1.5 years, while high-end battery costing 3x as much like the Odyssey PC1700 (used by law enforcement here) lasts 4-5 yrs.

[lc98v8]

This is a good post, and wondering if I can replace my stock battery which is give around 60AMPs with higer AMPS like 80AMPS...Some say more amps is better, others say not good!. could not get good answer from dealer. The only thing they are sure about is buy the OEM. But OEM battery can not handle the heat over 100F and the havey use of A/C.

Need some help with this. Regards!

[NMuzj100]

Originally Posted by lc98v8

could not get good answer from dealer.

Not surprising!

Originally Posted by lc98v8

The only thing they are sure about is buy the OEM.

If they can sell you the OEM Panasonic battery at a reasonable price then, yes. What passes for OEM in Toyota NA is the same battery you can get in any battery shop. They do not ship batteries overseas because of weight and environmental concerns so it is near impossible to get the true OEM battery. Will they sell you a Group 27 ? If not how can they say with a straight face it's OEM.

Originally Posted by lc98v8

But OEM battery can not handle the heat over 100F and the heavy use of A/C.

In my experience the OEM battery works great in heat and with constant AC use.

I finally had to replace my OEM Panasonic at 109k and 9 years. I went with a standard Group 27 battery. The mechanic who sold me the battery said the longevity of the batteries was due to the reserves of power provided by the Group 27 size and recommended keeping the same size even though it cost a couple dollars more. He compared it to Chevy/Ford trucks that have the same starting power requirements but a battery half the size/weight but burn out every three years.

[uzj100]

Odyssey PC1700MJT

[uHu]

Anyone heard of 50 years of servicable life from a car battery?
Battery defibrilator - or High Frequency Pulse Charger ?

Did you try it?

http://p198.ezboard.com/Battery-and-...opicID=1.topic

http://www.kountrylife.com/cgi-bin/t...forum&th=16010
2-3 posts down

And one in Dutch - http://home.wanadoo.nl/petervanhaandel/Home.html

[hedydd]

I bought my 100 series diesel new in Sept '98 and it has now done 120,000 miles. It had a couple of years where it did about 5000 miles or less per year, which didn't do the brake discs much good because they rusted up. The original Yuasa batteries are still good. They've been topped up with tap water three or four times maybe.
That makes them 9 years old just gone. Batteries last much longer these days than back in the 1970's when they rarely lasted more than 18 months in the same climate. The big change came in the late 1980's in my opinion.

[macneill]

Good question. I've only got 39K on my 02 and it's still going good.

We'll see this winter though.

[NMuzj100]

Originally Posted by uHu

Anyone heard of 50 years of servicable life from a car battery?
Battery defibrilator - or High Frequency Pulse Charger ?

Did you try it?

I have one and didn't get it on my Panasonic before it died. The technology is real and effective but whether its economical in a single 12v battery vehicle is probably debatable.

http://www.canadus.com/pages/page.asp?s=3510

Article from Four Wheeler

[ZJ2UZJ100]

Replaced OE battery after 5 years/50Kmiles.

In hindsite, it probably was fine. I thought the battery was dying when it might actually have been the starter contact problem.

Replaced battery with whatever Toyota Parts Dept specified. Had a coupon from direct mail advert. Think it cost $70.

Fresh battery didn't help my starter, but it seemed to make my windows go up and down much faster!

[lc98v8]

thanks a lot for the info, and wish to know if any one tried using an 80 amps battery in place of the 60 or 65 amps battery??

I noticed the FJ cruiser come with panasonic 80 amps, this is is smaller car????

[pint]

Mine started dying at 6 years and 80K.

[100 TD]

The Aussie turbo diesel (2003)comes with 2 x 55Ah FB (Furukawa Battery) Hi-Dash batteries in parallel and the V8 came with one 65 Ah IIRC . The batteries are made in Japan as you would expect. The new V8 4.5 litre turbo diesel ute comes with one FB battery, not sure on it's size.
I have split my 2 batteries apart using a REDARC battery isolator solenoid so I can run auxilliary items off the vehicle without affecting the start battery. The extra strain on the one starting battery (instead of 2) knocked it around a fair bit so I installed 2 x Group 31 Optima Yellow tops. I will probably use something diferent next time but will see how these go. I bent up a 2mm stainless plate for a battery base to support the larger battery, then cut an old fire blanket up and glued it to the base to act as a fibreglass insulator against heat. I then purchased some aluminium lined foam and glued this completely around each battery to reduce the heat transfer to the battery from under bonnet temps. ( I removed the aluminium around the top only to protect from short circuits due to the close proximity of the positive terminal). I welded up a couple of bits of stainless angle and flat bar and made a new hold down bracket as they are fairly high batteries and the OEM bracket didn't suit. I also made a new stainless hold down bolt and used a stainless nyloc nut. I will probably swap the batteries around every 6 to 12 months so they both get used for starting and auxilliary loads.
This battery will fit in a V8 AFAIK, it's specs are 900CCA, 1125 CA, 75 AH, 155 minutes reserve capacity.
It will spin a starter very quickly!
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the terminals are in the centre of these batteries, I replaced the original terminals with brass militery style terminals and the positive terminal I bolted a piece of copper bussbar (19mm x 3mm) to it to extend out to the original fusible link block so the links remained the same.

[gaylon]

Mine - the original Panasonic - is just starting to die. 8 years and 110K miles. I just ordered a Odyssey PC1700 MJT.

[hkeller]

Mine made it 7 plus years and about 90K miles.

[LXRunner]

OEM Panasonic - replaced with Odyssey PC1700MJT
http://forum.ih8mud.com/attachment.p...9&d=1186581342
one year ago after it refused to get full charge at 8 years and 112K miles.